Roy vs Gay

Gay this year has gotten a lot better, but I still think Gay isn't as good as a fully healthy Roy.

What can Roy do if he gets hurt? That is not under his control.

 

Naw truth is both are overpaid

 

When has anyone called Gay a "scrub?" He's been hovering around the 20 PPG mark since his second year in the league. He's no superstar, but he's far from "scrub" material.

 

Well you can't control injuries and it wasn't Roy's fault that Pritchard gave him that extension knowing his knees were messed up.

No wonder he got fired.

 

Nobody called Gay a scrub and Roy was a superstar until his knees disintegrated. What irony?

 

Gay is still a scrub.

Max contract guy who has never been above .500

 

Gay's just a stat w**** on a shyt team.
but really. there's nothing wrong about it. he got family to feed right.

 

Um, Gay is not a stat scrub. LOL!

And Roy was never a superstar.

He was a notch below that level.

 

And what exactly do you think Gay would be if he tore up his knees?

 

What????

I never posted anything about injuries.

I'm talking about the healthy Roy.

He was a good player but not GREAT. (LBJ, Wade, Kobe, etc)

 

I didn't quote you. I was talking about the OP.

 

Can I say, cool story bro?

 

Roy had an injury history with both of his knees prior to the draft. It was well known, and it was one of the KEY questions everyone had about Roy -- whether those past injuries would it lead to further issues or not.

If not for those knee issues, he would have been rated even higher. Though, he would have probably still fallen to No. 6 due to dumb managements of the teams picking before that.

You can always say that "there was no way to know he would break down after 4 seasons", but the injury history was there and Portland took him with that knowledge. So you cannot discount these injuries when comparing these players.

Having said all that, I still say you would have had to draft Roy. Shooting guards with legit size, good to somewhat above-average skills in every area, and maturity are much rarer than the athletic wings with great potential but questionable attitude.

Hindsight, is always 20/20...

 

Depends what you mean really by great. Roy was not in the tier of Kobe, but he's more like a Manu, and was an incredibly dangerous player, as this team should know more then any other. Comparing Gay and a healthy Roy is hilarious. Just a damn shame about his knees, but yes, the injury concerns were there. But you have to take him, given that Gay is really the only one of the top 10 picks in that draft who's actually okay.

 

Just because Gay hasn't had team success doesn't make him a scrub.

 

Gay is not a scrub and Roy was on the verge of becoming a superstar IMHO, you don't score 40 points in the playoffs without having superstar talent.

 

i think martin can score 40 in the playoffs but we r not calling him a superstar talent! martin is underrated here! the dude is balling out of his mind yet no one outside of houston is saying $hit!!

 

Playoffs are a different animal, Roy did it vs Ron Artest and Shane Battier and Martin has yet to show he can lead a team there let alone score at that high a clip in that environment.

I like Martin a lot, he is an elite scorer no doubt but until he does it in the playoffs...no dice.

 

yeah but its foolish to think he cant score 40+ in a playoff game (btw not calling u foolish) it gets me irritated when i see ppl call him a roll player! thats a helleva role player then!