Hope this wasn't posted. http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/merc...u@yahoo.com&KRD_RM=4tsqokmnltlkmsmkkkkkkkklks|Eugene|Y
It was somewhere. At least if people see it in the open, they will stop saying that we are trying to do absolutely nothing.
Mo couldn't be traded for Snow...........likely to be the backup PG for the Cavs. Hope this cuts back on the <i>estimation</i> of Mo's trade value on this BBS.
This was first posted in the Snow trade thread, so I will post my take again here: I think that is smart of the Rockets. I would rather have Mo and Juwan than Mo and Snow. The problem, I fear, is that once the season starts Juwan will probably get more playing time than Mo and if Mo's numbers go down he will be even harder to trade (if that's possible). If we have any hope of trading Mo, we better hope that the Rockets don't pick up a backup center, and those minutes go to Howard, thus giving Mo more minutes.
Trading Mo for Snow wouldn't have solved our problems either. We would have taking a big contract back for a PG who is slowing down and can't shoot well. I hope they won't go after Atkins either. I can see Boston taking Mo for him along with fillers to complete a deal. Atkins plays with a lot of energy and can finish nicely around the basket but he isn't a good passer.
Stephen A says Snow to Rox? If Howard not Mo If Snow had his druthers, there would have been more such times in Houston, alongside Yao Ming and Tracy McGrady. If only the Rockets had been willing to deal Juwan Howard to the Sixers instead of Maurice Taylor - but they weren't. So Cleveland, a mere 45 minutes away from where Snow grew up in Canton, stepped up to the plate and became Snow's newest home. http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/sports/9201746.htm Posted on Wed, Jul. 21, 2004 Stephen A. Smith | The franchise had to get on with the future By Stephen A. Smith Inquirer Columnist ATLANTA - To some, it is a sad day. To others, it's time to throw a party. Eric Snow, the loquacious, born-to-be-a-leader point guard who rode a coaching genius' philosophy and the magician-like skills of his backcourt mate to an NBA Finals appearance and newfound riches, was traded from the 76ers to the Cleveland Cavaliers yesterday. And for those wondering why, here's the bottom line: Allen Iverson is Philadelphia's newest point guard. A youth movement is, officially, in full effect. And the shaving of $15 million off the Sixers' salary obligations should make the boys at Comcast very, very happy. Whether the Sixers will be a better team next season remains to be seen. But at least this city has been given a reason to care again. As defensive-minded and committed to winning as Snow was - he was trained to be by none other than former Sixers coach Larry Brown - he didn't exactly bring any intrigue or suspense to last season's lethargic 33-49 campaign. "With me, you definitely know what you're getting," Snow said yesterday, hours after he was traded for guard Kevin Ollie and swingman Kedrick Brown. "I worked hard. I gave it my all. I made the most with the skills I had and tried to facilitate other guys doing their thing. "We won a lot of games with me doing that, but it became clear to me a long time ago the team was looking to move in a different direction. Willie Green is going to be a player in this league. We all know A.I. can do whatever he puts his mind to. Like anything else in life, there's always an ending. I just can't say enough about the way the Sixers' franchise and the city of Philadelphia treated me and my family. There were really some special times here." If Snow had his druthers, there would have been more such times in Houston, alongside Yao Ming and Tracy McGrady. If only the Rockets had been willing to deal Juwan Howard to the Sixers instead of Maurice Taylor - but they weren't. So Cleveland, a mere 45 minutes away from where Snow grew up in Canton, stepped up to the plate and became Snow's newest home. The Cavs get the leader they've been looking for. New head coach Jim O'Brien and the Sixers finally get started with that new era everyone's been waiting for. "The decision to trade Eric was twofold," Sixers president Billy King said yesterday. "One, get more playing time for Willie Green, who I think is ready for it. Secondly, with the style of play that Jim wanted to play, it was time to go in a different direction. "What Eric gave you was defense, a QB. I think Eric was the QB that was going to make the safe pass, make sure guys ran the plays. With Jim, now you have, say, Allen Iverson, Green, or someone who's not a traditional QB to run your offense. Guys that can both run and create plays." It doesn't mean trading Snow was easy by any stretch. But it had to be done. In getting rid of Snow, the Sixers ridded themselves of a $30 million obligation over the next five years, acquiring Brown, who is entering the last year of his $2.3 million deal, and Ollie, a four-year, $12 million obligation. Brown's a stud athlete and Ollie is the prototypical backup point guard, which can only help the Sixers. As for the Sixers, think back to two seasons ago when Dikembe Mutombo was in the lineup, only to watch helplessly as the Celtics, sparked by Walter McCarty and Rodney Rogers, annihilated them in Game 5 of that first-round playoff series. Rogers and McCarty would set picks, then pop out for wide-open threes. Now you get a picture of what O'Brien's crew will look like next season. It's conceivable that Iverson will start at the point, with Green at the off-guard. It's plausible that Glenn "Big Dog" Robinson will see minutes both at small forward and power forward. It's entirely possible that O'Brien will go small occasionally, inserting Kenny Thomas at center and Aaron McKie at small forward, with Iverson, Green and Robinson in the lineup. And there is no question the three-point shot will be used in abundance. Interesting? Absolutely. Especially with Snow gone. And when was the last time anyone's been able to say that about these Sixers? "We're definitely changing," King said. "I think the way the game evolved in watching Detroit win, and guards like Dwyane Wade and Stephon Marbury play, you almost do not need the set-up point guard anymore." They'll always need Snow's heart, character and professionalism. Perhaps they'll find that in someone else. As for those feeling sorry for Snow, "Don't," he said. "I'm happy." For himself and the Sixers. So don't lament. Join the crowd.
I like Snow, would have been happy to have welcomed him here, contract and all. If he had brought Samuel with him. Without him? Nah, pass.
You guys are really funny. Howard is NOT so valuable that you can afford to pass up a competent PG like Snow who would have been an idea fit running JVG's offense. I suspect that the real problem here was the dollars - Uncle Les didn't want to pay a PG $6 million a year for the next 5 years. (Who writes these contracts anyway?) I have to agree that the money is completely out of whack in this case but to say that keeping Howard is the better course of action is deluding oneself. Remember, Howard is merely a Mo Taylor who will occasionally go out and grab a rebound. I remain extremely skeptical of his ability to be successful at the PF position in the West where he'll be facing guys who are taller AND better on a nightly basis.
HillBoy didn't see J Howard play for the Mavs so he doesn't know that the boy can actually play a little..... Besides, that would have been a terrible trade for the Rockets. Snow would be a decent PG but without a good outside shoot, that makes him good but not great. And that Contract, no thanks. Now that was a good instance of Just say no.
I'm happy we didn't give up Howard for Snow...if that was actually the scenario. I didn't think we could trade a guy for 60 days after we trade for him regardless ?!
