Voting is based on front court, back court, overall offence, inside offence, outside shooting, overall defence, post defence, perimeter defence, bench, chemistry...and then individual match-ups (starting line up only) If you score a point for each, that is 15 points total, there should be a winner decided. Fadeaway: PG: Gary Payton SG: Reggie Miller SF: Chris Mullin PF: Tim Duncan C: David Robinson Bench: Chris Paul Shawn Marion Shawn Kemp VS Jumpman: PG: Tracy McGrady SG: Michael Jordan SF: Scottie Pippen PF: Dennis Rodman C: Dwight Howard Bench: Mark Price Pau Gasol Anfernee Hardaway
Firstly, once I got the chance to draft Pippen and Rodman I knew that I would draft an improved version of the 1996 Chicago Bulls: Code: 1996 Chicago Bulls: Team JumpMan: F - Scottie Pippen F - Scottie Pippen F - Dennis Rodman F - Dennis Rodman C - Luc Longley C - Dwight Howard G - Michael Jordan G - Michael Jordan G - Ron Harper G - Tracy McGrady 6 - Toni Kukoc 6 - Pau Gasol 7 - Steve Kerr 7 - Mark Price 8 - Jud Buechler 8 - Anfernee Hardaway We got the tall pointguard-less backcourt that could switch off on essentially every matchup that they would face, but this time they have an elite athlete in McGrady instead of the broken down Ron Harper. Then we have a younger Rodman and Howard who provides a vast improvement in help defense and rebounding. Off the bench, in place of the Croatian Sensation, we got Pau Gasol who does not provide the three-point shooting of the former, but does provide inside scoring, some defense, rebounding, and can play stretches at center. Mark Price could do so much more than be the three-point marksman, late free-throw shooter off the bench that Kerr was, and, finally, Hardaway can jump in and play either guard position. Starting Lineup: FORWARD: Scottie Pippen (38 MPG) Spoiler 2010 Season: Code: PPG RPG APG SPG BPG TS% eFG% TRB% PER 22.0 8.7 5.6 2.9 0.8 .544 .515 13.3 23.2 Awards and Honors: Code: 3 X All-NBA First Team 2 X All-NBA Second Team 2 X All-NBA Third Team 8 X All-Defensive First Team 2 X All-Defensive Second Team FORWARD: Dennis Rodman (34 MPG) Spoiler 1992 Season: Code: PPG RPG APG SPG BPG TS% eFG% TRB% PER 9.8 18.7 2.3 0.8 0.9 .574 .564 26.2 17.0 Awards and Honors: Code: 2 X Defensive Player of the Year 2 X All-NBA Third Team 7 X All-Defensive First Team 1 X All-Defensive Second Team CENTER: Dwight Howard (36 MPG) Spoiler 2009 Season: Code: PPG RPG APG SPG BPG TS% eFG% TRB% PER 20.6 13.8 1.4 1.0 2.9 .600 .572 21.8 25.4 Awards and Honors: Code: 3 X Defensive Player of the Year 5 X All-NBA First Team 1 X All-NBA Third Team 4 X All-Defensive First Team 1 X All-Defensive Second Team GUARD: Michael Jordan (40 MPG) Spoiler 1991 Season: Code: PPG RPG APG SPG BPG TS% eFG% TRB% PER 31.5 6.0 5.5 2.7 1.0 .605 .547 9.5 31.6 Awards and Honors: Code: 5 X Most Valuable Player 6 X Finals Most Valuable Player 1 X Defensive Player of the Year 9 X All-Defensive First Team 10 X All-NBA First Team 1 X All-NBA Second Team GUARD: Tracy McGrady (30 MPG) Spoiler 2003 Season: Code: PPG RPG APG SPG BPG TS% eFG% TRB% PER 32.1 6.5 5.5 1.7 0.8 .564 .505 9.5 30.3 Awards and Honors: Code: 2 X All-NBA First Team 3 X All-NBA Second Team 2 X All-NBA Third Team Reserves: FORWARD: Pau Gasol (26 MPG) Spoiler 2010 Season: Code: PPG RPG APG SPG BPG TS% eFG% TRB% PER 18.3 11.3 3.4 0.6 1.7 .593 .536 17.1 22.9 Awards and Honors: Code: 1 X All-NBA Second Team 2 X All-NBA Third Team GUARD: Mark Price (20 MPG) Spoiler 1993 Season: Code: PPG RPG APG SPG BPG TS% eFG% TRB% PER 18.2 2.7 8.0 1.2 0.1 .609 .546 4.8 22.1 Awards and Honors: Code: 1 X All-NBA First Team 3 X All-NBA Third Team GUARD: Anfernee Hardaway (16 MPG) Spoiler 1996 Season: Code: PPG RPG APG SPG BPG TS% eFG% TRB% PER 21.7 4.3 7.1 2.0 0.5 .605 .549 6.8 24.6 Awards and Honors: Code: 2 X All-NBA First Team 1 X All-NBA Third Team TEAM OFFENSE: The Triangle: it will work because, besides Howard who is probably the brute of the team, everyone on the team is intelligent and can pass the ball. This team is more versatile than the Bulls because of McGrady and Hardaway who can duplicate Jordan and Pippen's roles on offense; Howard, who can score in the low-post; and Gasol, who can score with his back to the basket, extend the defense with his range, and pass from either the low or high-post. Mark Price was one of the best shooters ever, just like Kerr, but unlike Kerr he can make plays for his teammates. Jordan will not score as much on this team as he did on the Bulls, but he will still take the glory as the team's clutch scorer/playmaker. TEAM DEFENSE: The Bulls' defense was already great with older players in the backcourt and immobile centers, it could be lethal with McGrady and Howard added to the mix. The noticeable issue here, I admit, is guarding quick pointguards, but it wasn't something that beat the Bulls then and I don't expect it to beat them here either - remember, it didn't affect Magic's team - with better perimeter defenders and better big help defenders. I also expect this team's defense to lead to plenty of transition opportunities - remember, the traps Harper, Jordan, and Pippen would set? - because it's backcourt creates turnovers and Howard's help defense will do the same. REBOUNDING: I don't see many teams, if any, that are capable of matching the rebounding duo of Rodman and Howard. When you add to that duo a solid rebounder like Gasol and above-average rebounding from Pippen and Jordan you got an advantage over most teams in this league. In addition, since the triangle offense is not fast-paced, you can commit more players to defensive rebounding; this team will not give up many second chance points. CHEMISTRY: I will admit to possible chemsitry issues with McGrady and Howard, but I just don't think they will appear because those two will not be on the same pedestals they were on in their leagues, and therefore their egos will not be out of control. I just don't see McGrady or Howard acting like babies with Jordan around as the clear alpha dog, but I do see their talent appearing - this goes with pretty much every team in this league, IMO -. The triangle will help out, too, because it is an equal opportunity offense - just not in the clutch, when everybody knew it was Jordan's time -. Minute Distribution: Code: FORWARD: CENTER: GUARD: Pippen: 38 Howard: 36 Jordan: 40 Rodman: 34 Gasol: 12 McGrady: 20 Gasol: 14 Price: 20 McGrady: 10 Hardaway: 16
Good lord, man. It's just a fun little basketball vote-off. I won't be typing up a huge essay, and will just let people make up their own minds.
I agree, overkill. Keeping what I wrote during the draft though. Did the same for the other league and it's just about my team.
I will do the format we all agreed on... front court: Fadeaway back court: Jumpman overall offence: Fadeaway - (JumpMan don't have any outside shooter on his front court. Dwight, Rodman won't do it. Pau can, but his accuracy is meh..) inside offence: Fadeaway outside shooting: Fadeaway overall defence: JumpMan - Very solid D right there... post defence: Fadeaway.. Duncan, Rob perimeter defence: Jumpman, no question bench...Fadeaway chemistry: JumpMan Individual Matchups PG: Gary Payton SG: Reggie Miller SF: Chris Mullin PF: Tim Duncan C: David Robinson VS Jumpman: PG: Tracy McGrady SG: Michael Jordan SF: Scottie Pippen PF: Dennis Rodman C: Dwight Howard 9-6.. Winner is Fadeaway.. Sorry JumpMan.. i think this is really a bad matchup for you..
front court, back court, overall offence, inside offence, outside shooting, overall defence, post defence, perimeter defence, bench, chemistry Fadeaway: PG: Gary Payton SG: Reggie Miller SF: Chris Mullin PF: Tim Duncan C: David Robinson Bench: Chris Paul Shawn Marion Shawn Kemp VS Jumpman: PG: Tracy McGrady SG: Michael Jordan SF: Scottie Pippen PF: Dennis Rodman C: Dwight Howard Bench: Mark Price Pau Gasol Anfernee Hardaway FC- Fade BC- JM --just barely because of MJ Ooffense=Fade Insideoffense-Fade Oshooting-Fade Odefense-Jumpman Pdefense-Fade PerimiterD-JM Bench-fade chemistry-fade 10-5 Winner-Fadeaway
front court: Fadeaway back court: Jumpman overall offence: Fadeaway inside offence: Fadeaway outside shooting: Fadeaway overall defence: JumpMan post defence: Fadeaway perimeter defence: Jumpman bench...Fadeaway chemistry: JumpMan Individual Matchups PG: Gary Payton SG: Reggie Miller SF: Chris Mullin PF: Tim Duncan C: David Robinson VS Jumpman: PG: Tracy McGrady SG: Michael Jordan SF: Scottie Pippen PF: Dennis Rodman C: Dwight Howard 9-6.. Winner is Fadeaway
Front court: Fadeaway Back court: Jumpman Overall offence: Fadeaway Inside offence: Fadeaway Outside shooting: Fadeaway Overall defence: JumpMan Post defence: JumpMan Perimeter defence: Jumpman Bench: Fadeaway Chemistry: JumpMan Individual Matchups PG: Gary Payton SG: Reggie Miller SF: Chris Mullin PF: Tim Duncan C: David Robinson vs. Jumpman: PG: Tracy McGrady SG: Michael Jordan SF: Scottie Pippen PF: Dennis Rodman C: Dwight Howard 8-7 fadeaway. I see Gary Payton limit Michael Jordan as he did in 96' finals which would be key thing in this series.
front court: Fadeaway back court: Jumpman overall offence: Fadeaway inside offence: Fadeaway outside shooting: Jumpman overall defence: JumpMan post defence: Fadeaway perimeter defence: Jumpman bench. Jumpman chemistry: JumpMan Individual Matchups PG: Gary Payton SG: Reggie Miller SF: Chris Mullin PF: Tim Duncan C: David Robinson VS Jumpman: PG: Tracy McGrady SG: Michael Jordan SF: Scottie Pippen PF: Dennis Rodman C: Dwight Howard fadeaway: 6 jumpman:9
When you're asked to list the top 100 point guards, are you going to put T-mac on your list?.. Just saying.. :grin:
As point guards, definitely. Gets close as players, since the point guard position isn't what it normally is in a triangle offense.
The team with Jordan has enough absolute will and leadership by default. Yeah, Payton can play D on either T-Mac or Jordan or even Pippen. I would take Prime CP3 over GP any day
