[RotoWire.com] Roger Clemens: Door Open for Return to Bronx?

too bad the Yankees farm system is cleaned out

 

Clemens is not going back to NY. Done. Case Closed. End of story. PERIOD w/ a little one of these !

 

Chronicle basically said that it was in Newsday as well and that Drayton didn't deny anything. It went on to say that the deal is that if the Astros fall out of contention early, he could request the trade to the Yanks.

Obviously, if this is an unwritten provision, Clemens made it fairly clear to Drayton that there is a good chance that we will suck and if that happens, I want to go to NY.

Maybe some of you guys should get on Roger for assuming we might stink before the season starts.

 

Not really. There upper-level prospects are cleaned out. But they can easily put together a solid package of lower-level prospects that would satisfy the Astros. Besides, if the Astros are out of the playoffs by the trade deadline, they might as well dump Clemens' big salary.

 

A few questions...

1. Why would Roger want to go back to NY where he will not be able to spend time with his family when he does not pitch?

He wouldn't.....


2. Why would Roger want to go back to NY when he has already won a championship?

Been there , done that....play at home or stay at home


3. Why would the Roger accept arbitration when he could have been a free agent and goto ny without a problem?


Because he wanted to play at home



This is just dreamcasting by some NY rag of a paper.


Move along...nothing to see here......

 

... and why not the Red Sox? After all they are THE WORLD CHAMPS.

 

to win

because Ny would have never given him anything close to 18 million

If a report from Sunday's Long Island Newsday is true, the Astros might need Oswalt this year more than they're letting on. According to that report, McLane promised Roger Clemens he could request a trade to the Yankees if the Astros fall out of playoff contention early. That report also claimed that Andy Pettitte's surgically repaired left elbow might not be ready until a month into the season.

McLane, who met with Berkman's agent Thursday in hopes of working out a multiyear deal, did not deny the validity of Newsday's report.

"Anything is possible," McLane said. "But as far as any part of a written agreement, there isn't one."


McLane, who gave Clemens a no-trade clause with his record $18 million, one-year deal last month, says he would consider trading anyone if that player requested it. Clemens' agents were unavailable for comment.

"He's got a no-trade, so we couldn't go out and trade him unless he agreed to it," McLane said of Clemens. "We'll listen to anything that is brought up, but as far as an automatic deal, that's not in the contract

In other words, gpoing to NY was definitely discussed....as was the possibility that we may be out of the race early.

 

If I was an aging pitcher, I'd want to pitch for a contender rather than waste away my final season. It seems logical to me. Winning is exhilarating.

But the yankees in the playoffs, please.

 

He has already won...many times and almost did here last year.

Don't know if that is a good enough reason to work that out up front.

NY still won't because they have already gotten their upgrade at pitcher with the Unit, Jared Wright, and Pavano.

Interesting that you would now believe Drayton but was so sure that he was lying about the Beltran negotiations....hmmm

 

and i could say the exact opposite to you

 

I never claimed to disbelieve Drayton , I merely stated that it seems unlikely and looks more like dreamcasting from a NY Newspaper.


All Drayton said was "anything's possible but that no written agreement exists". Sounds more like a denial than a confirmation.

 

not to me...if it was a denial, he would have denied it....if its a handshake agreement, he would answer like he did

 

I can see your point but that is an assumption and you know what happens when you assume...don't you?


You're right, there could have been some type of agreement like that but for the NY paper to report this( and you know how accurate they are ), they would have heard it from a leak either with the Astros or the Clemens camp.

What value would it have been to Drayton or Clemens to purposely leak this info to the media and only the NY media? If this was a handshake deal than the only people how would have been privy to this info would have been Drayton, Timmy P, Clemens, and his agent. I can't any of them leaking this info. It seems to me to be damaging to both or either side if this info got out.

 

here we go again....i am assuming based on his comments......you are assuming based on nothing

 

If you took the time read the rest of my post, you would see why I am thinking the way I am about this situation.

I was joking about the assume comment....

 

I don't think Drayton, Purpura or Clemens leaked it....i think it came from someone in the Astros camp who talks to the media on the QT, or someone in Hendricks' camp that does the same.

Its no different than when they leak all of the "extras" in Beltran's contract. The Mets wouldn't want the other players to know what he got...and neither would Beltran...but someone , somewhere leaked the info.

For Drayton to recognize what was said, and not comment other than to say there is nothing in writing, speaks volumes.

 

It still does not make any sense. IF only 4 people knew about the suppossed "handshake" deal, the leak had to come from one of them. The leak does not benefit either side.

Why just a NY paper? Why not the local paper?

 

Then why not say "That's ridiculous. The contract has a no trade clause." or "We would never plan on being out of the playoff chase early on. Why would we ever agree to something like that?"

Drayton was commenting directly on the story regarding whether or not we would trade him to NY if we were out of it early. There were a million things he could have said to dispell the idea. Instead he just said nothing was in writing. Also...its not like someone said that this particular thing was in the contract....so for McLane to say that it isn;t in writing is pretty redundant and avoiding the question IMO.

 

Drayton did say that there is a no trade clause:

He also stated:

Seems to me that Drayton was speaking in general about players requesting trades, even those that have a no-trade clause.


Besides, Clemens already stated at his press conference that he felt the Astros had a legit chance this sesaon. Was he lying?