http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=579&e=2&cid=638&u=/nm/20021116/en_nm/life_ufo_dc Archeologists Look for UFO at Famed Roswell Site Sat Nov 16, 6:28 PM ET Add Entertainment - Reuters to My Yahoo! By Zelie Pollon ALBUQUERQUE, New Mexico (Reuters) - In trying to unravel a mystery that may involve the war of the worlds, cable TV's SCI FI Channel has turned to a group of educated men and women with shovels and set them loose on the southern New Mexico desert. In an effort to verify once and for all whether a UFO crash-landed in New Mexico more than 50 years ago, the cable TV channel sent a team of archeologists to conduct an in-depth study of the legendary crash site. And just like the alleged government conspiracy by those who say aliens landed near Roswell, New Mexico, the results of the scientific study are top secret. That is until Nov. 22, when SCI FI airs "The Roswell Crash: Startling New Evidence," which will include what network representatives are calling a "smoking gun." Until then believers and debunkers will just have to wait, said Bill Doleman, the principal investigator with the University of New Mexico archeology team. Doleman, along with three other archeologists and six volunteers were hired by the SCI FI Channel to conduct the research, which took place over 10 days last September. "We found things -- some things I still don't know what they are -- but they surprised me," Doleman said, reiterating his confidentiality agreement with SCI FI. SCI FI representatives say the program promises never- before-seen eyewitness interviews, late-breaking revelations and a "smoking gun bombshell," which does not necessarily coincide with the archeological findings. "The smoking gun is fascinating and compelling. It's going to raise a lot of questions afterwards," said Thomas Vitale, a senior vice president of programming at the SCI FI Channel. The supposed crash of an alien ship in Roswell on July 3, 1947 has become legendary. According to some accounts, the ship crashed in an empty field with several aliens on board. Witnesses claim to have seen extraterrestrial beings, which were taken away by military personnel never to be seen again. Those who believe an alien craft landed are adamant the incident involves a huge government cover-up. The government, in turn, says the incident involved a weather balloon and the accounts of aliens comes from anti-military conspirators. Doleman says his team was directed to use purely scientific methods, such as geophysical prospecting and archeological testing of anomalies, to find any evidence of a crash. They primarily investigated what is called the "skip site," the second site of impact where the craft supposedly spewed debris before skipping 17-25 miles away to its final crash site. "We weren't out there to bunk or debunk. We were just scientists using scientific methods," he said. Along with evidence found at the scene, the "smoking gun evidence sheds light on government truthfulness about this whole event," Vitale said.
I'm really curious also. I've seen the interviews with the locals, who seem really down-to-earth, and also read some of the Corso book. Weather balloon with dummies...doesn't seem like it would cause such a stir.
I think that this fantastic event did happen -- can't wait to see the show. Marcel's son is very convincing. Several "witnesses" have mysteriously died, etc.
This is supposed to be on tonight. Unfortunately I'm already taping and watching the Rockets game. Someone please let me know what is this smoking gun, or if it will be rebroadcast sometime. Thanks!
Anyone see this? I saw probably half of it. The smoking gun was an old photo of two military people kneeling next to a shredded weather balloon that they claim was the "UFO" that everyone was talking about. According to people interviewed, the military put out a press release claiming that a UFO had crashed and had been recovered but several hours later changed the story and put out a new press release claiming it was a weather balloon. One of the men in the smoking gun picture had a letter in his hand which some guy used some kind of computer enhancement to try to read what was typed on the letter. According to this guy, the letter said something to the effect that a "disc" was to be transported by military plane to Forth Worth for examination. There's your "smoking gun".
No, this photo has been around for a long time. The difference now is that they can blow-up and digitize in order to read the letter from Colonel Ramey-- the commander at Roswell. The letter seems to detail events that the Air Force had been publically denying. CAUGHT IN A LIE. So the smoking gun was not related to the digging. Those results are forthcoming.
When the "crash" first occurred, the details about what had happened were naturally and excitedly loosed by and on the community. In theory (or actuality), the military sensing the enormity of the "reality" sought to change the story. They converted the nature of the wreclage from flying saucers to weather baloons and the bodies of the aliens became human dummies. Reportedly, they also intimidated the civilian eyewitnesses into holding onto their stories under vague but menacing threat. For example Mack Brazle, the rancher who first found the wreckage on the ranch where he worked, was later detained for a few days and emerged with a new story (and a new pickup truck, I've heard). The mortuary director who was asked to bring several child-sized coffins to the base and started snooping around was bullied by some military personel and threated with physical harm if he didn't clam up. This mortuary director was a friend of one of the nurses on the base. He ran into her that night and she confessed to him that she had just participated in the autopsy of an alien life form. On a side (conspiratorial) note, I have heard that this particular nurse turned up dead a couple of years later in one of those mysterious one-car automobile accidents that you hear about. Captain Marcel's son saw parts of the wreckage because his father the Captain excitedly stopped by home to show it to his wife and son. The next day, Captain Marcel told his son to forget what he had seen and to never speak of it again. The photo in question was one taken of the base commander Col. Ramey and Capt. Jesse Marcel who was the chief intelligence officer. They placed themselves in photo op fashion in front of some scrap weather baloon material and this photo ran above a story that tells of the <b>silly mistake</b> of senior military people simply not recognizing weather baloon material and body-dummies... and confusing them for alien spacecraft and alien bodies. This, of course, ignores what people had seen in the sky the night before the wreckage was found. It also fails to address the massive clean-up effort that was undertaken by the military. It also fails to explain why quantities of the clean-up were flown to Ft. Worth to senior command. One of the grunts who accompanied the materials to Ft. Worth later said that his commanding officer said to his crew o the flight back to Roswell from Ft. Worth, "Gentlemen, we've just made history...." and left it at that. The "smoking gun" that emerged has to do with the photo mentioned earlier. In the photo, Col. Ramey is holdling in his hand a folded up piece of paper. There is type print visible but not readable. Remember, this is 1947. Now they have enlarged and digitized this message. It contains references to the "disk" (actually using quotation marks in the message) and to "victims" and some other details that were part of the original story that emerged naturally but had subsequently been re-butted by the military intelligence. The premise of the show is that they are taking an archeological approach to evaluating the supposed crash site. That has never been done. They dug and dug and dug. They gathered up 60-odd bags of unusual debris and took it to the lab for testing. Results are forth-coming. They did dig a large trench and seem to have found evidence of a large impact event in the earth. On an interesting side-note, the narrator of the show is none other than Bryant Gumbel.
What did you guys think of the show, was it well done or an over-hyped fox type program? Just happened to notice that giddyup's post count is at 1947...
Weird! I was pretty disappointed in the show... it was 2 hours long and overly dramatized. Kind of reminded me of the Al Capone's vault business. I think this is a compelling world event and, as one of the witnesses said, the government is just stonewalling until all the witnesses are dead... and the event will be forgotten.
Funny... If the same crash happened last week and a government cover-up was unearthed when a letter in a photo was digitized, it would be front-page news.
That's not much of a smoking gun. What am I supposed to make of a letter mentioning a disk being taken to Ft. Worth? What is it supposed to mean?
if true, it's about as close to a smoking gun as you could hope to get today...true, it's circumstantial...it calls for inference...but it certainly makes the whole story a bit more interesting!
Because it wasn't a weather balloon but a disc from those tests they supposedly did during that time period. That's sort of the problem with all of this. The Government did lie (and continues to) about any number of things for various reasons. When these lies are discovered, it could be that it means that the lie was covering up a secret government program... or it could be that the lies were covering up something bigger. We just don't know. When the government does attempt to come clean (or claim it's coming clean), it's near-impossible to believe them based on their history of lies. If that makes any sense at all.
For one, it could be wholly unrelated to the Roswell incident. These folks have more than one thing going on in their lives, don't they? Two, is it impossible that was a disk and bodies that actually were related to a weather balloon crash? Three, if it is a government cover-up, why would it necessarily be a cover-up of an alien crash site? Why not a spy plane or something like that?
