Monday, December 9 Proposals exchanged, nothing agreed to at this point -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ESPN.com news services Pete Rose met with commissioner Bud Selig in Milwaukee to discuss Rose's possible reinstatement to baseball, sources close to the situation told ESPN.com's Jayson Stark. The sources said that nothing has been agreed to at this point -- including whether or not Rose will be reinstated or regain Hall of Fame eligibility. The meeting two weeks ago came 13 years after Rose, then manager of the Cincinnati Reds, agreed to a lifetime ban from baseball following an investigation into his gambling. Baseball's career hits leader has lobbied since then for reinstatement. Selig had previously made clear numerous times that he had no intention of lifting the ban. Since the meeting, there have been subsequent conversations between representatives of Selig and Rose, and proposals have been exchanged. Rose wasn't shedding much light on his talks with Selig. "There are a lot bigger people I'm obligated to answer to first," Rose told Cincinnati televelsion station WXIX through a personal friend, "so my official comment is 'no comment'." There is still great disagreement, both within the baseball establishment and among living Hall of Fame players, about how much Rose should have to admit and to what extent he should be reinstated. It is regarded by the sources as all but certain that Selig will insist that Rose will have to admit in some fashion that he bet on baseball. If the terms of Rose's mea culpa are agreed to, there would be a probationary period before he is eligible for the Hall of Fame and before he would be reinstated and allowed to work again in baseball. Background information from The Associated Press was used in this report. --------------------------------------- Well its a start atleast sounds like Pete has to confess for him to get in. That is exactly what people have been saying for years. It will be interesting to see if Pete admits it.
I hope not. He bet on his own team, he should never be invited to any major league events or allowed into the hall.
I hope so, who cares if he bet on his team? Ty Cobb is in there and he was a deplorable human being. DaDakota
It damages the very nature of competition that is at the heart of every sport. It is the most heinous thing, sports-wise, a person can do. Banishment is the appropriate punishment, and that includes no entrance into the Hall.
Geez, if you are a pro athlete, dont gamble DRINK party have sex as often as possible do drugs sell drugs beat up people, including your wife but never, I repeat never gamble thats what will get ya
The commisioner banned Rose. If the commisioner wishes to rescind that then that is his decision to make. I have no problem with Rose in the Hall based upon his on field contributions. I do not believe that Rose should EVER be allowed to manage or coach again.
Loosen the bone, Wilma. I would believe intentionally throwing a game to win a bet as much more heinous than simply betting. Assuming that Rose was as competitive at gambling as he was on the field, then I'll bet (no pun intended) he always bet the Reds to win.
The problem with betting on your own team to win is that if you know you are going to make a bet for your team to win tomorrow, you may not make the same moves in the game that you manage today. It brings into question every move you make especially in those games that you don't bet on. Perhaps he rested one of his top players knowing that he'd need him in a future game he plans to bet on. The first step to Rose being considered for the Hall of Fame is for him to acknowledge the evidence baseball has against him, apologize and begin the reinstatement process.
If Pete Rose gets into the hall of fame, then Shoeless Joe Jackson better damn get in. He is only like 3 times the player the Rose is, but no one knows who he is since he played over 80 years ago.
Exactly bobrek, if Rose admits to the evidence against him, only then can baseball begin healing the wounds. Hopefully Rose has gotten help for his gambling problem. He belongs in the HOF.
Didn't Rose sign a document agreeing to a lifetime ban, thus professing his guilt? I admit I'm not as well versed on this topic as other sports issues, but based on his onfield contributions, I think he deserves a spot in the HOF. I thought his gambling issues took place while he managed, not while he played. Of course, I could be totally wrong.
amen!!! here it is...the rule is simple...bet on baseball and you're out. Pete knew that...and did it anyway. I don't have a lot of sympathy for a guy in that situation.
Betting on baseball is wrong. It was the cardinal rule. That being said, if he bet on like one game we need to forgive the guy and get on. We all make mistakes. If he bet on like hundreds of games and the outcomes were effected he needs to left out of the Hall. You can't forgive someone for risking the integrity of the game. I don't think the commish would sentence the guy if he hadn't committed a crime. So he obviously screwed up big time. I'd have to say leave him out. He admitted to the evidence. There's nothing more to be done here.
i don't think that allegation has ever been made...jordan had a gambling problem, but i thought it was golf and at the casino. does the NBA have the same requirements that MLB does for the HOF? i'm not sure, but i don't think so.
I have heard Barkley mention it. There is more to Jordan's 2 year "retirement" than most people know about.
I don't buy that rumor at all. Never have and never will until someone can give me more than heresay and innuendo.
even if that's the case...how is it relevant to pete rose? two entirely different organizations with entirely different criteria for entry into their respective halls of fame.
