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Ron Paul prefers Obama

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Major, May 3, 2008.

  1. Major

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    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.co...o-endorse-mccain-likes-obamas-foreign-policy/

    This is interesting. Normally, I would say these kinds of things are irrelevant. But Ron Paul has a very, very loyal following, and also a bunch of people who think he's crazy.

    While a Republican supporting a Dem wouldn't normally have much impact, Ron Paul might be a bit different because of the loyalty of his people and because the GOP doesn't match their views entirely. I'd be curious from those of you Ron Paul supporters out there - if he came out and said he preferred Obama to McCain, would it influence you at all in the general election? Overall, we're only talking about maybe 2-3% of the overall population, of course, but interesting nonetheless.
     
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    Very misleading thread title.

    “But that’s doesn’t mean that’s an endorsement,” Paul quickly added.


    Paul is a Republican, remember that.
     
  3. Major

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    Of course, the title doesn't say he endorsed him. The title is directly stated in the text:

    <I>Instead, Paul favors Sen. Barack Obama because of positions on foreign policy.</I>

    Nice try though.
     
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    Those are the CNN article's authors words, not those of Dr Paul. So this is not an endorsement or anything remotely similar.
     
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    ...Swing and a miss!
     
  6. Major

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    Of course, no one (except you) has claimed it was an endorsement. If you actually watch the video, Blitzer asks "if you had to pick one of the three, who would it be?" and he waffles a little bit and then says "probably Obama" (with several "but"s, of course. That would indicate that, like the title says, he prefers Obama.
     
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    Ok, I'm glad you admit it's not an endorsement, despite your misleading thread characterization. Doesn't really matter though, the Paul voters will vote for....Paul... in the General. And a lot of Paul voters never would have voted for McCain anyways, since they only reason they like Paul is b/c he's anti-winning the war.

    McCain will trade the Paul voters for the 30% of Hillary voters any day and twice on Thursdays.
     
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    I didn't think this was goign to make much sense until I read the piece. I'm not surprised that Paul would favor the one with the least interventionist policy.

    That said I think its a somewhat misleading title as he only prefers Obama on a very narrow set of views whereas the title could imply something broader.
     
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    As a Ron Paul supporter, I will be voting for none of Clinton, Obama, or McCain. Ron Paul has said before that he respects that Obama came out against the war from the beginning, and that he has fought for some civil liberties. I don't think it's a stretch to say that Ron Paul thinks that Obama is least destructive of those three candidates. I'm almost positive that if Ron Paul endorses anyone else (which I doubt that he'll do), it will be Chuck Baldwin, who supported him all throughout his campaign, and has now received the nomination of the Constitution Party.

    I have bits of interesting information from a friend that's in Washington talking to many Republican movers and shakers. I hope to get more details Tuesday, if I can, I will share them.
     
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    I like Ron Paul. Out of the three mainstream candidates, I'd vote for Obama before I voted for any one else. He's imo, the least worst. As always though, hindsight will be 20/20...
     
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    Favors =/= Prefers.
     
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    I like Ron Paul as well, but I'm not a bandwagoner ;)

    He's long been my favorite congressman. Other than maybe Kucinich I think he's the most consistent and principled of the candidates from the get-go. I think if Paul supporters had to vote for one of the three major party candidates left, Hillary and McCain are out of the question.

    I think most Ron Paul supporters will end up voting Libertarian, or the Constitution Party which will help the donkeys more than the elephants. They might as well vote Obama. I probably will too.

    I'd vote Green or Socialist before I'd vote for McCain.
     
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    very misleading thread
     
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    In context, I think they both mean the same thing.

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    Paul: Not ready to endorse McCain, likes Obama's foreign policy
    Posted: 10:00 PM ET

    Paul on his presidential run: 'The race is still on'.

    (CNN) — Even though Rep. Ron Paul has never officially ended his long shot presidential bid, he’s ready to weigh in on the three remaining major candidates for the White House.

    In an interview on The Situation Room, Paul told Wolf Blitzer that endorsing Sen. John McCain, the Republican Party’s presumptive nominee, “would really confuse” his supporters “because they know we have a precise program and we have to defend that program.”

    Having a Republican win the upcoming presidential election is “secondary” for Paul who is more interested in defending the Constitution, having the country go in what he considers the right direction, having a sound currency, and achieving balanced budgets. Paul parts ways with McCain over McCain’s support for the Iraq war, his approach to U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East and his willingness to spend federal dollars to support military operations in Iraq.

    Instead, Paul favors Sen. Barack Obama because of positions on foreign policy. “But that’s doesn’t mean that’s an endorsement,” Paul quickly added.

    Paul recently released a new book titled “The Revolution: a Manifesto.” “Unfortunately, it is revolutionary to talk about obeying the Constitution,” Paul said of the book’s title.
     
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    it's because you can't read
     
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    Very interesting. I voted Ron Paul in the primaries, and will be inclined to vote for Obama if that is what Paul believes is best for the country.
     
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    I disagree. The twins have the capacity to read, but not the ability to comprehend the written word. That is just as big a difference as the semantics they are babbling about in this thread.

    On topic, I would have voted for RP over anyone else in the race. Honestly, I think it would be kind of amusing to have Hillary win the nomination so that we could see either Ann Coulter campaign for Hil-Rod or see her back down from the statement that she made in which she said she would do such campaigning if HRC was the Dem and McCain was the Rep.

    I don't honestly believe that any of these schmucks will reduce the size of government or its outlays, so since it appears that my inner fiscal conservative will be dissatisfied with any of the prospectives, I will have to fall back on my sense of social justice to guide my support.

    RP would have turned this country around for the better. I don't know that any of the rest of them will.
     
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    Those dozens (as in several) of loyal Ron Paul voters could be the turning point for Obama should he win the Dem nomination.
     
  20. Major

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    Ron Paul got 128,000 votes in Pennsylvania. Even if they represent 2% of the population, they could flip a few states in the general election if they vote as a block one direction or the other. If you don't think they could have an impact, you missed the 2000 and 2004 elections.
     

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