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Role players matter

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by jim1961, Dec 13, 2023.

  1. jim1961

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    1 year ago, on Dec 13, 2022, the Rockets won a game in Phx, the rockets back up PG and "big" were:

    Daishen Nix
    Usman Garuba

    This year the back up PG and "big" are

    Aaron Holiday
    Jeff Green
     
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    Austin Rivers is not wrong, but of course it's also a bit of a self-serving statement (the headline statement).

    In the video, he talks more about learning to do the little stuff already in high school and college, so that's not self-serving. Makes sense to me what he says.
     
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    Role player does ted talk on the importance of role players, guy who's a role player at his local Y concurs

    More to come at 7
     
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    All Players Matter
     
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    I call an Austin Rivers show.
     
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    Go Rockets!!!
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    Easy take.

    But the roles that role players play doesnt seem to be important to teach at the lower levels.
    Isnt that the point here?
     
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    It was All Lives Matter joke lol but i actually disagree with the clip and let me explain why. He's basically saying being a team player is important because you might not be the guy you think you are when you get to the NBA. I find the clip pointless because even if they don't get prepared to be role players in lower levels when reality hits their face they will make adjustments anyways. People have always been making adjustments their whole lives because life is tough. We are capable of doing that as species but i'm not agreeing with Rivers because kids should aim the stars even if it's a unrealistic target for them. Besides who says "Oh man i can't wait to help my team without touching the ball!!" "Mom we won 79-12 and i scored only 4 you should have seen my screens". These vets need to shut the f.ck up they aren't nearly as wise as they think they are.
     
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    The players that are NBA role players weren't role players in college or before college. I don't see the connection between transferring and NBA role player being a lost art. The NBA has gone out of its way to go after upside and drafts mostly one and dones, from the G League, or from International. In the current way NBA drafts, a college's role for a player who wants to go to the NBA is to get them to the NBA after their freshman season.

    If the NBA wants players to learn to be role players prior to the NBA, they need to draft seniors or at the earliest juniors. Until that happens, players should do what they can to help themselves make money/ have fun/ get an education. Being a role player at a college program ain't going to score them dough.

    The NBA is younger and it is up to the NBA to develop role player skills until they change how they draft.
     
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    While I get your points and partially agree, its the same point to why say a EE major in college still has to take literature, history and phys ed courses.
     
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    They will matter even more in the upcoming second apron age. Soon, contending teams will have to make the decision between (1) surrounding two to three franchise guys with really good role playing depth; or (2) accumulating as much star talent as possible, knowing the ability to create any depth will be severely limited. Personally, I think the former point is the best path for sustained success going forward.
     
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    I will say only 20-23 teams trying to build NBA teams to win in the short term does decrease the number of veteran role players so the rebuilding teams can try to shift through low chance of success young players instead of developing role players.
     
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    EE majors take history because companies hire EE majors with degrees. The NBA allows one and dones, and teams focus on drafting upside. It is better for a rebuilding team to draft a complete bust and stay bad than it is to draft well rounded, non-star players that got their literature, history and phys ed credits.

    Don't blame the player, blame the game.
     
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    I get it but they are probably taught the other aspects of the game as well. Reaves is being overdramatic.
     

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