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Rockets's DEFENSE SUCK this year!!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by reptilexcq, Nov 18, 2004.

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  1. reptilexcq

    reptilexcq Member

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    Really...compare to last year, this year's defense is unbelievably suck. There are just too many wide open shots taking by the opponents. Most of the new players coming in don't have the defensive prowess to guard anybody. Lue is too small to guard....so is Ward....Howard too small to guard the Western PF's or even mid-size PFs....Taylor is the same.

    I remember last year...the defense was tight...nobody getting ANY EASY LOOK whatsoever. But man this year...watching them play defense is like watching Kings' defense!!
     
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    They are still tops in the NBA though if you look at the stats.
     
  3. reptilexcq

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    Top in what FG%???? Top in term of point allow...then forget that!! Because Rockets play a slow tempo kind of game...the score will always be low...for them or the opponents. If you want to judge who has the better defense....look at FG%!!!
     
  4. Man

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    Well...yeah I think Cato helped.
    Tmac seems tobe playing good defense to me..slacks off occasionally.
    The Knicks played pretty good though..we left Kurt Thomas open purposely..but uhh he made his shots.
    Yao needs to STUFF everyone..
    I think an athletic guard/forward like Posey but maybe stronger and with better shooting would help
    A guy like Azima/Ivy/...a younger Eric Williams?
     
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    You know that statistically we're still one of the best defending teams in the league.
     
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    It doesn't mean crap if you can't outscore the other team.
     
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    Well yeah, obviously. The point of this thread is to say our defense sucks, which is just not true. Now we've been playing aweful defense in this past two games in the fourth quarter but Van Gundy will get that straighten out. I'm waiting for our offense to click together and YES, it does take time for our players to gel offensively. Once that happens, we'll be clear sailing and happy days will be here to stay.:eek:
     
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    One thing I noticed is that the Rockets are horrible at defending pick and rolls. Not only in this game, but several other games, Yao gets in foul trouble because of guards from the other team can easily penetrate by run a simple pick and roll.
     
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    CAN SOMEONE PLEASE ANSWER THIS. I REALLY AM CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT MAKES JVG's DEFENSIVE SCHEME SO GREAT. READ THE FOLLOWING:





    And just out of curiosity, how good is JVG's defensive scheme? I know that's what he's known for but shouldn't good defense translate to defensive stops? Shouldn't that mean people like kurt thomas wouldn't be left open time after time? in the 10 games so far, can anyone convince me how JVG"s defensive scheme is so AWESOME if teams still find a way to score??
     
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    I'm not saying I don't agree with you, it's just that after watching every game so far (especially the last 2 losses) I can't figure out WHY or HOW JVG's defensive scheme is so "awesome" From what I see, teams are able to score pretty much with ease, which contradicts "defense" in general. Could you explain why his defense is so awesome and are you able to honestly say JVG's defense has been visible in the first 10 games?>
     
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    His scheme is more about intesity and playing your man tight. Unfortuantly tonight, that scheme did not work. The games we win and play well overalll you can see that the defense does work. But on a night like tonight where they couldn't rotated or do anything right on defense you have to sit here and put some of the blame on the players.

    JVG can tell them how to attack players etc, but if they are not going to excecute then you can't really blame him at that point. Ill give him props on making sure we play defense but his offense ideas suck and i will admit that.

    But basically i am chalking this up to the fact that the players did a poor job or rotating to the open shooter.

    Yes JVG should have called time and got them to figure out they are leaving a HOT man open but i guess he didn't do that.
     
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    Isn't "Intensity and PLaying your man tight" a fundamental EVERY NBA coach in his right mind would implement? And why is it in some games "it works" but other games teams go off and win? I just dont understand how one night a player can ROTATE properly and on the next the player just shuts down and "forgets" to do it. Does that make sense>?
     
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    That could possibly one of the worst defensive calls I've ever seen.

    Leave Kurt Thomas open, the worst he can do is tie it. Crawford was hitting 3's all night. It's not even Jimmy's fault, he hit the pick and there was no one to pick up Crawford on the other side.

    You know its kinda funny. I remember after the win over Memphis, JVG acted so pissed because he gave Battier a wide open half court shot, and missed. A couple games later, he gives a wide open three to a guard that is a much much better shooter than Battier.

    I don't know, I'm just tired of hearing the man try to explain why we are losing, it is so obvious, yet the stem of the problem is even more so.
     
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    I understand what your saying. I wish i had an answer to it as well. I just really think that the team doesn't come out with the same intensity and killer instinct as other teams. It's like one game we come out ready to make heads roll and the other games we look like a YMCA rec team out there.
     
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    LOL that dry humor is fantastic. But yeah, talk about frustrating, I have so much hope and extreme expectations for this "new squad" but I can't help but wonder if there is a possibility this team won't EVER learn to play with intensity EVERY GAME as the season goes along.
     
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    The Rockets gave up Cato in the trade. It's to be expected that the Rockets have a dip in defensive performance. It is not expected that the Rockets have a dip in shooting accuracy. The guys brought in have had high career averages. What is happening now should be resolved quickly if the Rockets want to even be in the playoff race come April. Defense is not the problem as much as the outside shooting has been poor.
     

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