I'm seeing way too many trade threads lately concerning players that some of us either don't know, or is close to impossible. Miller or Artest is no doubt our best option, also to say our most realistic option. Miller and Artest probably both want out soon since they're not going anywhere. Memphis is looking to rebuild, so they'll probably trade away Mike Miller. Kings will also probably look to rebuild, so they'll trade Artest instead of Martin. Miller has played with McGrady before and as a matter of fact they're good friends as well. Miller compliments not only McGrady, but the Rockets as well due to his reliable 3 pointer. He works hard, stays out of media, and provides good efficiency. Miller is the last guy any team wants to be left open, his streakiness is crazy. McGrady is also best at getting players wide open. Yao will always be forcing double teams, and so will McGrady. It is almost impossible to get someone on Miller at all times (that is if Miller or Mcgrady plays the SF spot). Artest is also a good fit. But the rockets will have to pull off a minor laker to get him. We can't question his heart, but he is a trouble prone. But I have a feeling RA wants to coach this guy. The Rockets will probably have to give up Battier to get him, but I want Battier to stay with the Rockets since he sets the defensive foundation. IMO, Miller should be our first option. We don't necessarily need to give up important role players to get him. And Grizzlies are probably looking to dump salary. I think the rockets could get Miller for Luther and Bobby, or one or two few other bench pieces. I can't stress how good a fit Miller is, since he could create his own shots at times as well.
was this thread really necessary? I mean, this isnt exactly an original thought here. these two players have been mentioned in numerous threads numerous times.
Memphis will probably want picks for Miller. They have too much salary cap as it is, and unless they are planning to join the presidential campaign, they're set for pretty much any FA on the market.
Yea dude fersure, I'd love to have both those guys, moreover artest he brings that toughness you can not compare to anyone else
It was mentioned numerous times. But I just want to sum it up. Don't you think we're seeing too much unrealistic trade threads at the moment? We need to discuss Miller and Artest as well if people here are going to consider getting carmelo anthony........ Afterall, Miller and Artest are our most realistic targets. Nobody has brought this up much anymore since the trade deadline.
To get Artest, you'd have to hope Sacramento thinks they are rebuilding. Then, we can do a trade similar to the Lakers and Grizzlies did for Gasol. or you can hope he opts out of his contract, then decides to sign with the Rockets on an incredible play-for-adelman-again discount. To get Miller, we have to hope the Grizzlies make more dumb decisions with the cap space they acquired from the Gasol trade. Then, they'd be looking for more contracts for the next offseason. Calderon is in a similar situation. While the Raptors aren't rebuilding, Calderon has made himself or Ford more available by publicly demanding the starting job (what's up with mitchell's discipline?). I don't see why you'd get so upset at other Rocket fans inquiring about getting a different player. Maybe it's a reverse jinx thing
Actually, these two players have been mentioned in numerous threads numerous times for numerous years. Seriously, I bet there hasn't been a single week for at least two years that hasn't had at least one person suggest we acquire Artest or Miller. So yeah, I agree. This is one pointless thread. What are you talking about? I see both of these guys discussed in various trade threads at least ten times a day. Quite frankly, as unrealistic as some of these threads are, I'm finding them refreshing because they aren't talking about the same old guys. And why do we need to discuss anyone? We talk about personnel moves because it's fun. It isn't as though we have any power to make them happen. In the end, the Rockets will make whatever moves they're going to make and it doesn't matter who the hell we discuss.
Lol well, not upset. As sook said, I think the rocket fans here are going to wonderland. Seriously there have been trade threads on nearly every single player available. AK47, Anthony? Calderon is probably another realistic trade, but I doubt raptors will give him up. Raptors have young stars, they'll probably replace, not rebuild. As for Grizzlies. I think they're on the rebuilding stage no doubt. If they're stupid enough to give up Gasol, then it shows that they're on the rebuilding phase. Everyone knows Gasol gives the Grizzlies a chance in the future, but if they threw him away just like that, then they're probably looking to recruit young players. Which is why I think we should go for Miller. He is the sixth man of the year in 2006 afterall......
yes to miller, maybe to artest this has more to do with artest missing a lot of games season after season (injuries or whatever) miller has played 70+ games each of the past few seasons and his work ethic and mindset is a huge bonus that can rub off on other players <object type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="400" height="300" data="http://www.vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=983505&server=www.vimeo.com&fullscreen=1&show_title=1&show_byline=1&show_portrait=0&color="> <param name="quality" value="best" /> <param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /> <param name="scale" value="showAll" /> <param name="movie" value="http://www.vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=983505&server=www.vimeo.com&fullscreen=1&show_title=1&show_byline=1&show_portrait=0&color=" /></object><br /><a href="http://www.vimeo.com/983505?pg=embed&sec=983505">Grizzlies Insider: Year in Review - Segment 5</a> from <a href="http://www.vimeo.com/user257525?pg=embed&sec=983505">Memphis Grizzlies</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com?pg=embed&sec=983505">Vimeo</a>.
I'm not saying we shouldn't be discussing about other players, I'm saying we're going off the money. If you have so much hate for this thread, request it to be locked. Might as well shut this thread off if you're here to post how stupid I am for making this thread.
The Kings signed artest for another yr but they mostly to trade for, maloof doesn't really like him and memphis is rebuilding they aren't going anywhere for a while. It'll take them 3 lottery picks like the trailblazers to go anywhere, chances are Mike M. is WELL in reach
Actually, I don't think most of those threads should really exist either. All of these options could easily be discussed in one of the many excellently constructed and well thought out threads started by guys like Clutch or Blathersby. I don't know why so many of the newer members think we need a thread to discuss every single thing that crosses their minds and we need it NOW! A little thought, planning, research goes a long way.
If thats the case, then don't flame me for making this thread ifs its ok for others to make unrealistic threads as well. I'm just dropping my 2 cent. Like I said, if you have problem with this thread, report it. I don't want an arguement on this thread, got it? So I apologize if my thread pisses you off.
That vid just gave me TREMENDOUS respect for Mike Miller i was always like..yea hes a good shooter but that work ethic just shows you how much heart he has especially on a team like memphis and being in the league for 7 yrs now. Bring him here and lets show him what winning feels like!!
It doesn't actually piss me off. I just don't see any point in it considering how many other places these guys are being discussed/have been discussed/will seemingly forever be discussed. I also don't see any point in the Carmelo thread or the Jose Calderon thread or any of the numerous threads dedicated to a single player we're unlikely to get - just for different reasons. I certainly agree with you that Artest and Miller seem to be more realistic targets. That said, just today I read an excellent post by HayesFan as to why Miller may not be possible. You can read it here: http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?p=3679387#post3679387 Anyway, I probably owe you an apology if I have come off angry. I really don't mean to. This board has just been so cluttered lately. Threads like the excellent and well thought out one by Blathersby you can find here - http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=148023 have been completely buried by threads new posters have created on a whim. Do you see how much work that guy put into his thread? Compare that to the many threads that are basically as follows: "How do you think (insert player name here) would fit on the Rockets? Discuss." Yeah. It's a damned shame.
Yeah, I've also thought about Miller... But I was reminded that just like there's a max, there's a min. The Grizzlies are done dumping salaries. I seriously doubt any trade with either them or Phoenix will be a blockbuster one. Both teams are under the microscope now. The ONLY way I see either team moving big players is if they're on the Get side of J.A. Adande's Headline Rule: And for the Grizzlies, Miller and Gay are the biggest pieces they've got. Neither one will go anywhere for a while. Unless I'm totally wrong.
lol, thanks I didn't read through this whole thread, but I can say this: I'm often very sarcastic when I write stuff. It's very difficult to pull off, because a lot of my sense of humor is deadpan. Putting a thousand really gives things away. So if I'm ever openly mocking someone, I'm probably being sarcastic and tongue-in-cheek. The only things online that legitimately frustrate me are blatant ignorance and flame wars.
regarding the hayesfan comment on why miller may not be possible (saving face), you're making it out to look like they're only gonna accept lopsided deals in their favor from now on. if the offer benefits both teams why shouldn't they trade. as the gm he should be looking out for whats in the team's best interest. i think its reasonable to assume memphis is rebuilding. they will need to shed salary and bring in young talent. mike miller is 28 and they have a lot of backcourt youth that needs to be developed (gay, conley, jcn, j crit, and lowry). when they reach their primes, miller will be on the decline and wouldn't have as much to offer to help them contend. if he really is as well liked in memphis as people say he is, wouldnt it be better if they offered him a chance to contend while hes still in his prime (like kg). this in turn will give the organization a better rep. of course all this talk is garbage is we don't put together a good offer it has to start with bobby jackson and our 1st + fillers/more picks (no brooks or head, not cause i value them, but memphis has a plethora of guards)
