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[Rockets-Raptors] Collapse started after Tmac's ...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rock8ts, Dec 9, 2007.

  1. rock8ts

    rock8ts Member

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    Collapse started after Tmac's 3 forced shots... No ball movement. Pure ball hogging.

    Clearly we lost momentum after this happened. This has happened many times in the past. Everytime that it seems the game is offensively easy, Tmac would show off shooting whenever he wants to shoot. If I were his teammate, I would lose my energy to play. This is a pattern that's been going on since I've been watching tmac.

    This is definitely a thing that needs to be changed.
     
  2. Laoyi

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    This is his nature. He played like this in orlando.
     
  3. OrangeRowdy95

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    I never mind TMac shooting. What I don't like about him sometimes is that sometimes he shoots to make, and sometimes he shoots to chuck. In Game 7 vs Utah, last 4 minutes, he shot to chuck. In games 3 and 4 vs Dallas in 2005, up 88-82 in the 4th quarters, he shot to chuck. In key moments like that, when the defense gets tough, he needs to quit shooting and take the ball to the basket, so he can shoot free throws or create for his clutch teammates. I'm tired of his "tired" excuses and "my teammates suck" and "I tried", etc. Try taking the ball to the basket my man, like you did in Game 5 vs Utah and Game 6 vs Dallas.
     
  4. blastaway

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    Does anyone think that Tmac, with all the ball hogging and forced shoots, was trying to show Franchise that this is his team and city now?

    I hope Im wrong, but I get the impression that Tmac doesn't like Steve and prefers Rafer to be playing.
     
  5. daddy cool

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    You are not alone.I got this impression in the first half. He didn't want to assist steve and it seemed like he wanted him to fail.The last play before the half he drives to the basket and throws the ball to his INVISIBLE teammate and steve was wide open in the corner for a three.Steve was tripping and looking at the bench like I was wide open. T-mac sabotaged this game he didn't want this to be successful with steve starting because there is no way the rockets should have lost with a 14 point lead and 11 point half time lead. He killed the momentum defensively and offensively.
     
  6. Mr. Clutch

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    There is no doubt about that.

    TMac's willpower seems to be rather weak. He should try to make it work.
     
  7. Yaozer

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    I would think that Tmac likes Rafer starting because Rafer pretty much brings the ball up and then sets one for Tmac when he's not doing it for Yao. I saw most of the game today and when they started the game Steve would just give it to Tmac to bring the ball up or pass it to Batt.. didn't really help much for Tmac's cause.

    But I don't think that's what Tmac was trying to do. He just likes to do that kinda stuff. I wish Tmac would go inside more often and draw the foul instead of relying on his range so much. But then again.. Tmac also needs to learn to make his FT's.
     
  8. rock8ts

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    I don't think it has something to do with STeve. Tmac plays that way.
     
  9. daddy cool

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    This game here had alot to do with steve,you could tell from the body language. T-mac is a Steve francis hater
     
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    Hey, thanks all for the responses to my question. I think Tmac and Steve need to have a heart to heart. I know Tmac won't admit to Steve that that is his problem, but Steve should just say to him that "hey man, I know you are the star now, but I need to be aggressive to take pressure off of you and to help this team win."

    I think Tmac is a little bitter about how many fans like in these threads, etc. are hard on him, but they showed more love to Steve when coming back home than they do to Tmac. Someone needs to teach Tmac the story of the prodigal son.

    I think the same thing could be a similar problem with Scola. I don't see Tmac hitting him with passing like he does Chuck. And Scola give him more opportunity to do so because he can hit from more places than one foot under the basket.

    Again, I hope Im wrong, but I get the feeling that Tmac needs to learn that for this team to win, it can't be "ALL ON ME". He has to begin to understand how to want to play with the other best offensive players on the team and to still know when to take and get his shot off. He needs to learn when and HOW to take a game over. It ain't by jacking up 3 one after the other when you are not hot.
     
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    This is all right on the money. It may seem far-fetched but it is definietly true if you open your mind.
     
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    I hope it doesn't have anything to do with Francis. If it does, then our best player has more flaws than previously noticed.
     
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    I really hope so too. If that's the case, we have a huge chemistry problem.
     
  14. YallMean

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    Enough Tmac bashing thread. I said the same thing in the game thread during the game, so we hve all seen that. I think Tmac think he had mismatch to his favor. In games like aginst Utah, Clippers, he also had stretch like this, but the difference is he made more than miss. So it's really not Tmac's fault IMHO. Coach has to recognize what's the best offense for the team. I thought Adelman supposed to fix this team, but so far he's been getting Gundy's pay check without doing anything new.
     
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    True

    but I have always felt the major Difference between T-Mac and Kobe is mental
    Kobe is simply more mentally TOUGH that T-Mac

    All the skills are there

    Rocket River
     
  16. Winrockets

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    Maybe TMac is getting jealous with the rekindled love between Francis and Yao...:D
     
  17. ydqkang

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    NO doubt about T-Mac's talents.
    doubt about T-Mac's personality
    sometimes really like a selfish-woman,even smile.
    why not play like Oniel--Kobe did,you have a super man inside ,just penetrate ,then shoot or pass,suck his jumper shooting.
    it's not easy for the others to play under 2 super stars
    SF3 not easy,i think he is back mostly because of Yao ---his brother and champion dream
    Rafer not easy, mostly pass the ball to T-Mac when offensing
    Battier not easy, try his best to defend every game,but still asked to do more in offense.
    mutomubo not easy, only with a champion heart ,then stay.every game be a super fan of Rockets on bench,happier or more frustrated.
    Huyes not easy ,only try his best to rebound.
    …………………………not easy ,not easy for fans.
    God ,pls rescue us, we must do some bad thing in our life,
    just longly ,longly ,longly……………………
     
  18. steddinotayto

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    of course. that's why a Kobe-led Rockets team with the same personnel would be down right scary. no matter what many here thinks, Kobe is a better player than McGrady not because of skill, it's because of mental toughness.
     
  19. rock8ts

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    That's what separates champions from entertainers. :)
     
  20. durvasa

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    Really, it's both. Kobe's got more weapons in his arsenal. T-Mac relies on his length and his ability to elevate and shoot over defenders. And he's got a nice first step. But Kobe is much more polished as a scorer, in my opinion. His foot work and just the variety of shots he has at his disposal is unsurpassed. I remember him attempting and making a left handed three pointer one game. He's ridiculous.
     

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