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  1. Rocketboi

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    @johnhollinger: Also today, player profiles on the Houston Rockets (Insider) http://t.co/xDig3eUb

    Can someone post this up, thanks
     
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    It has been a good read in the past, I'm curious about it too.
     
  3. Matt78777

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    PROJECTED STARTERS

    KYLE LOWRY, PG
    Projection: 15.5 pts, 5.1 reb, 7.2 ast per 40 min; 16.07 PER | Player card

    • Tough, aggressive guard who pressures ball and defends. Loves taking charges.
    • Likes to push tempo but can get out of control. Mediocre outside shooter.
    • Good athlete who draws fouls. On the short side. Good rebounder for size.

    A tough little son-of-a-gun, Lowry got hosed in the All-Defense voting. He got just two second-place votes; in contrast, Russell Westbrook got four first-place votes and five seconds-place nods. So nine of 30 coaches (or, more accurately, PR directors) thought Westbrook was a better defender than Lowry this past season. That's indefensible.

    Lowry also showed improved play at the offensive end, finally taking over the starting gig from Aaron Brooks after spending his first four seasons backing up inferior players in Memphis and Houston. He made a surprising 37.6 percent of his 3s, and while we should expect some regression (his three previous seasons were all in the mid-20s, and he shot only 30 percent on long 2s), he does enough other positives to still be a quality starter.

    For instance, Lowry was ninth in the NBA in pure point rating and ranked in the upper half of point guards in every category except usage rate and free throw shooting. He's not a pure shot creator and that limits his star potential, but he has a reasonable contract and is very solid at both ends.


    KEVIN MARTIN, SG
    Projection: 27.0 pts, 4.0 reb, 2.9 ast per 40 min; 19.83 PER | Player card

    • Lethal scorer with penchant for drawing fouls. Quick, but average handle.
    • Has odd, left-leaning release but very accurate and great shot fake.
    • Brutal defender. Lacks strength and intensity. Runs funny. Has been injury-prone.

    The walking advertisement for true shooting percentage got his mark back over 60, marking the fifth time in six seasons he's done so. That was good enough for third among shooting guards, and as usual it was 3s and free throws that got him there. Martin's 43.6 shooting percentage is nothing to write home about -- it's actually barely above the median for shooting guards.

    But he led all shooting guards in free throw attempts per field goal attempt at 0.53, and he made 88.8 percentage of his free throws. Plus, he shot 38.3 percent on 3-pointers. Between those two items he had the second-best secondary percentage at his position; among high-usage players of any stripe, only Chauncey Billups outranked him.

    Martin added quantity to his quality, averaging 28.8 points per 40 minutes -- that would be more than Dwyane Wade, or any other player whose first name doesn't end in "obe." He wasn't near the top of the scoring charts because he played only 32.5 minutes per game. That approach seems a bit puzzling, but it did at least keep him fresh -- wracked by injuries the previous three seasons, Martin played in 80 games in 2010-11.

    As good as he is on offense, Martin is nearly just as bad on defense. He has a slight build and post players just murder him, even the ones who don't normally post up. Denver, for example, posted up Arron Afflalo against him on three of its first four plays one game before the Rockets finally threw up their hands and switched to a zone. Phoenix did the same thing with a near-dead Vince Carter. Martin's Synergy and on-court vs. off-court numbers both support that point, while his regularized adjusted plus-minus numbers suggest he's one of the league's worst defensive players of the past half decade. Needless to say, it's necessary to pair him with a quality defender who can guard the tough wing players.
     
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    CHASE BUDINGER, SF
    Projection: 18.0 pts, 6.4 reb, 3.0 ast per 40 min; 15.01 PER | Player card

    • Athletic, high-scoring wing can shoot off screens and finish at basket.
    • Good length but low aggression defensively. Good passer, decent handle.
    • Good leaper, excellent size. Struggles shooting off catch. Mediocre motor.

    Budinger overcame a very slow start to finish with numbers that essentially mirrored his rookie campaign. The big surprise was that Budinger shot only 32.5 percent on 3s, a development related to his struggles in catch-and-shoot situations. On the move he was more accurate, but his real strength is at the rim.

    Budinger shot 66.7 percent in the basket area, many of them highlight-reel dunks, and did well attacking the cup off curls. His secret was that he got so many of them the easy way -- 75.9 percent of his at-rim baskets were assisted, the most of any perimeter player, with many of them being alley-oops.

    Budinger rarely tries in-between shots or uses his size to post up; his repertoire is 3s, long 2s and dunks. His ballhandling numbers were very solid, too, as he ranked 11th among small forwards in pure point rating and had the 10th-lowest turnover rate.

    Defensively, Budinger doesn't look like much but his statistics last season were dramatically improved over his rookie campaign -- both his Synergy stats and his on-court vs. off-court differential were very solid, and according to 82games.com opposing small forwards had a 12.7 PER against him. I think those numbers overrate him, but sometimes long defenders are better than they look, and Budinger tends to lay off opponents and let his length and leaping ability do the work. He lacks strength and nobody will confuse him with Bruce Bowen, but if he maintains last season's numbers he's a very solid two-way player.


    LUIS SCOLA, PF
    Projection: 19.8 pts, 9.9 reb, 2.2 ast per 40 min; 16.62 PER | Player card

    • Skillful, physical left-block post scorer who loves to turn over left shoulder.
    • Average athlete and a bit undersized. Good midrange set shot. Tough.
    • Mediocre defender. Really struggles against perimeter 4s. Won't block shots.

    A rare exception to the rule that short power forwards hit the wall in their late 20s, Scola had his best season at age 30, blowing up for 22.4 points per 40 minutes behind an assortment of low-post flips and feints. Despite turning over his left shoulder nearly every time, Scola keeps defenders off balance with his quick fakes and half-spins, often slipping shots under a defender's arm at the far side of the basket.

    Scola got a lot more defensive attention as the season went on; at first he struggled with double-teams, but he improved over time. For a post player, however, he draws surprisingly few fouls; he was just 46th among power forwards in free throw attempts per field goal attempt, so his TS percentage is nothing special.

    Defensively, Scola is very good on the boards but struggles otherwise. He'll take bad gambles on post entries and doesn't block shots. Perimeter 4s challenge his mobility and give him fits when he tries to recover after helping on a dribbler. He's tough and will battle physical opponents to a draw, but he's out there for his offense.


    PATRICK PATTERSON, C
    Projection: 16.3 pts, 9.4 reb, 2.5 ast per 40 min; 17.00 PER | Player card

    • Solidly built big man with good midrange jumper. B athlete.
    • Smart, physical player who should become good defender.
    • Average rebounder. Needs to draw fouls and refine low-post game.

    Patterson shot 55.8 percent in what was a very solid rookie season overall, although the outsized (and likely unsustainable) shooting percentage was the main contributor to his strong PER. Patterson certainly has a nice 15-footer, but expecting him to hit 50 percent of his shots beyond 10 feet, as he did in 2010-11, isn't realistic. The shooting percentage will drop unless he gets a lot more tries in the paint.

    Such a development would also help his disappointing free throw rate. Patterson took only 42 foul shots the entire season -- that's a bad week for Kevin Martin. Patterson had the seventh-lowest rate of free throw attempts per field goal attempt among power forwards, and it's particularly concerning since he also didn't make any 3s. He'll have to do one or the other to be a high value offensive player.

    Defensively, Patterson was solid even as a rookie. He's an intelligent player with good awareness, plus he has a solid build and is willing to play physically. Oddly, he was dramatically more effective on the offensive glass than the defensive boards; that may just be a sample-size issue (he played only 868 minutes), but it bears watching.



    RESERVES

    COURTNEY LEE, SG
    Projection: 15.2 pts, 4.6 reb, 2.3 ast per 40 min; 12.62 PER | Player card

    • Athletic, committed defender who can reliably contain opposing wing players.
    • Corner 3-point shooter with limited ball skills. Good leaper and finisher.
    • Shies away from contact on drive and rarely draws fouls. Rarely goes left.

    Lee's production has been remarkably consistent given that he's been on three teams in three years. Last season his 3-point stroke recovered, as he nailed 40.8 percent, and between that and his solid defense he's made himself a valuable role player. Now he just needs to take more of them. Lee took too many long 2s last season and made only 34.7 percent of them, hurting his overall line; fewer than a third of his shots were 3s, but that's his bread and butter.

    Lee is also an athletic finisher, especially going right and in transition, but he's not as effective in halfcourt settings because he won't take a hit. As a result, Lee's free throw rate is consistently well below the norm for his position.

    Defensively, Lee is very solid -- a good athlete who competes and knows what he's doing. At 6-5 and 200 pounds, he can't match up against the biggest wings, but against virtually any 2 he's a capable defender who is able to guard without fouling. He'll likely never improve much from this point, but he'll stay in the league for a decade because his skill set -- a 3-point shooter who can guard the wings -- is in so much demand.


    GORAN DRAGIC, PG
    Projection: 16.7 pts, 4.7 reb, 6.4 ast per 40 min; 13.14 PER | Player card

    • Aggressive, left-handed score-first point guard. Hugely turnover prone.
    • Odd, inconsistent release off shoulder. Goes left almost every time.
    • Great size for position. Good athlete. Decent defender but fouls too much.

    Dragic took a major step backward after his breakout 2009-10 season, overcome by a rash of turnovers and the fact that he went from playing with four good shooters around him to zero. That includes himself -- he was at 27.7 percent on 3s when the Suns traded him to Houston; he shot 51.9 percent as a Rocket to revive his overall average, but his funky release won't remind anybody of Ray Allen.

    Dragic likes to attack off the dribble but needs to improve as a distributor; his 59th-ranked pure point rating is unacceptable. He also needs to cut out the mistakes on defense; only four point guards fouled more often, tainting otherwise solid defensive results.

    If Dragic can clean up the turnovers and shoot respectably from outside, he's a real weapon because of his finishing skills. It's rare to have a point guard shoot 65.4 percent in the basket area, as Dragic did last season, but fewer than a third of his shots came from that distance -- he relied far too much on 3s and long 2s. He also draws fouls on his attacks, so he needs to improve that 70 percent career mark from the free throw line.


    JORDAN HILL, PF
    Projection: 15.0 pts, 11.1 reb, 1.1 ast per 40 min; 13.98 PER | Player card

    • Classic "4.5" who can make plays around rim but lacks strength or ball skills.
    • Runs floor well and can make short-range Js. Can score in post in mismatches.
    • Shot-blocker with sky-high foul rate. Struggles defensively at both 4 and 5.

    Hill can finish plays but don't ask him to start one -- his -3.63 pure point rating was seventh-worst among power forwards. What he can do is run the floor, get second shots and make short-range jumpers. He also has a low-post game featuring short jump hooks, but he's reluctant to bust it out unless he has a size advantage, and he doesn't have the strength to establish deep position consistently.

    Defensively, Hill provides energy with his shot blocking (ninth among power forwards), but fouled once every 7.2 minutes -- only seven power forwards were whistled more frequently. His lack of strength consistently puts him on the losing end of low-post wrestling matches, negating his board work at that end; while Hill was seventh at his position in offensive rebound rate, he was only 40th on defense.

    Statistically, his Synergy numbers were worse than any power forward save the ridiculous Hakim Warrick, while his -5.05 on-court vs. off-court differential told a similar story, and his opponent PER numbers were through the roof (18.7 at power forward, 20.4 at center). While I doubt he's quite that bad, he's definitely a liability at that end and needs to improve his strength, focus and positioning.


    HASHEEM THABEET, C
    No projection | Player card

    • Long, tall, slender center with knack for shot-blocking.
    • Lacks strength. Foul prone. Has poor basketball instincts at both ends.
    • Can make short-range jumpers but has no post game whatsoever.

    Thabeet looked lost in his second pro season, reversing whatever limited promise he showed in his first. He didn't even block that many shots -- just 15 in 349 minutes. While he had his moments in zone defenses, where his length makes the paint a no-go zone for opposing drivers, he was a nonfactor offensively. Additionally, he had a sky-high turnover rate from 3-second violations and illegal screens.

    The Rockets had success with the late-model Dikembe Mutombo and likely envision a similar project with Thabeet, but they'll need to work on his head as much as his body after two dispiriting seasons in Memphis.


    JONNY FLYNN, PG
    Projection: 13.4 pts, 3.2 reb, 7.6 ast per 40 min; 9.06 PER | Player card

    • Quick, shoot-first guard who can push tempo. Poor decision-maker.
    • Decent defensive mobility but undersized and needs to play harder.
    • Doesn't draw fouls. Poor outside shooter. Floater, midrange game need work.

    Flynn didn't just take a step back last season, he did the moonwalk. After missing the first third of the season with a hip injury he came back to play 53 excruciatingly awful games, in which he showcased a near total inability to run an NBA offense. Flynn ranked among the bottom six point guards in six different categories -- PER, TS%, shooting percentage, free throw rate, turnover ratio and pure point rating. Ouch.

    The biggest problem is his poor decision-making on the move, which resulted in an astronomical turnover rate for a shoot-first point guard. Flynn's other problem is nearly as serious, however -- he's a scoring guard who can't score. Flynn can create shots, but he's neither a good outside shooter nor adept at drawing fouls, and his size is a problem when he goes into the paint to finish. Even if his percentages improve, his shockingly low free throw rate will have to improve dramatically if he's going to offer much in the way of an offensive boost.

    The defensive end did Flynn no favors either. Opposing point guards had a 17.4 PER against him and Synergy rated him among the league's worst performers. He also had the eighth-worst rebound rate among point guards.

    If there's good news, it's that his shooting percentage will almost certainly improve from last season's disaster, and that he's likely to be used differently in Houston than he was in Minnesota. Flynn still has some potential as a Bobby Jackson-type third guard who can create a lot of shots at middling efficiency for the second unit, but to get there he'll have to make more shots, draw more fouls and throw the ball to the correct team.


    TERRENCE WILLIAMS, SF
    No projection | Player card

    • Athletic wing who can create shots for others. Sees floor well, but turnover-prone.
    • Outstanding rebounder for size. Decent defender. Flaky personality an issue.
    • Terrible shooter who struggles with jumper, finishing and free throws.

    The Rockets have done many things right the past few years, but giving a lottery-protected 2012 first-round pick for Williams after he washed out of New Jersey wasn't one of them. Williams hardly played for Houston after the trade, and his career stat line is a mix of the good, the bad and the ugly.

    The good is that he fills the stat sheet in secondary categories. A classic point forward, Williams can create for teammates and for a 6-6 wing rebounds very well; he also has a high steal rate.

    The bad is anything involving shooting or scoring. While his career scoring rate isn't awful, his percentages are atrocious. Additionally, his buckets come at a huge cost in turnovers -- theoretically that portends well for his future growth, but his rate is so insanely high that it has to drop sharply for him to be a useful offensive player.

    As for the ugly, Williams' bizarre behavior has created further doubts about his future. Also, for a good athlete he continues to be weirdly unable to block shots; he didn't have any last season in 290 minutes.


    JEREMY LIN, PG
    No projection | Player card

    • Big, aggressive point guard who rebounds well for size and draws fouls.
    • Good size but slow feet defensively. Great nose for ball and good hands.
    • Drives to score; must upgrade distribution skills and decision-making.

    Lin played bits and pieces of 28 games, and posted a very respectable performance, shooting poorly but making up for it with lots of free throws, a decent assist-to-turnover ratio and a shockingly high steals rate. This is not a typo -- Lin had 33 steals in 285 minutes, which translates to 4.6 per 40 minutes. He also blocked nine shots, which most point guards don't do in a full season. (Quick example: Devin Harris is the same size, played 2,254 minutes and had seven.)

    In 20 D-League games, Lin showed similar skills. While his steal rate wasn't quite as phenomenal, he did average one every 15 minutes, and he showed the same strong ability to rebound the ball and get to the free throw line. However, scouts consider him erratic at the point, and you could see why in D-League -- his turnover rate was entirely too high and his distribution skills were wanting.

    Despite his weaknesses, Lin's overall résumé makes him a strong candidate to take over a full-time backup point guard job this season … whether in this market or another one.


    MARCUS MORRIS, F
    No projection | Player card

    • Short-armed combo forward with knack for scoring. Good midrange shooter.
    • Tough, but an average athlete. Needs to improve 3-point shot and free throws.
    • Below-average rebounder. Decent lateral quickness. Very good at using glass.

    The central argument about Morris is whether he's a 4 or a 3; the Rockets seem to feel he's a 3 who can expand his range to the corners and stretch opposing defenses. Morris has more upside in that role than as a 4, where his lack of size and athleticism will likely offset an ability to take bigger players off the dribble. So it's a calculated risk, basically -- he could potentially be a long-term starter as a 3, but he could be a bust too. As a 4, he's career backup.


    DONATAS MOTIEJUNAS, F
    No projection | Player card

    • Skillful, ballhandling big man in Toni Kukoc/Dejan Bodiroga mold. Left-handed.
    • Average shooter and not much of an athlete. Sees floor well; a point forward.
    • D a big question. Lacks muscle for a 5 but may struggle guarding perimeter.

    Motiejunas shot well in Europe last season, but that may be an outlier -- he has a line-drive shot with a low release point and it doesn't always rotate correctly off his hand. The biggest question about him is that he needs the ball in his hands to succeed and take advantage of his superior ballhandling skills for his size. But he may not be good enough to run an NBA offense through.

    Defensively, he's going to struggle. He's neither strong, nor athletic, nor tough; he's fairly mobile, however, and that may be able to carry him through as a sixth man, point forward type if his offense lives up to its billing.


    CHANDLER PARSONS, F
    No projection | Player card

    • Smooth small forward with great size for position and outstanding passing skill.
    • Average shooter, good ballhandler. Needs to add strength and improve motor.
    • Game production hasn't caught up to tools. Bad foul shooter.

    Parsons was a good gamble as a second-round pick. His production at Florida is reminiscent of David Lee, another player the Gators found a way to keep under wraps before he blew up in the NBA, and scouts are fond of Parsons' tools as a 6-10 small forward who can handle and pass. I'd expect some extended run in the D-League while he figures out how his skills fit in at the next level.


    MARQUS BLAKELY, F
    No projection | Player card

    • A 4 in a 3's body. Good athlete and excellent rebounder, but lacks ball skills.
    • Freakishly long arms. Poor shooter both from outside and the free throw line.
    • Great motor. Plays hard, runs floor and defends. Gets cheap points on hustle.

    Blakely played last season in the D-League, and from what he showed he looks ready to move up a level. Despite his lack of a defined offensive position, his length and athleticism mean he can compete defensively and on the glass while he figures out the offensive part. And even with those shortcomings he ranked highly in the D-League in PER last season, so he can make enough plays to compensate. However, he'll need to improve on his 63.6 percent mark from the line.


    MARCUS COUSIN, F
    No projection | Player card

    • Midrange jump-shooting big man with solid build. Good rebounder.
    • Makes foul shots but a subpar finisher. Struggles versus quickness on defense.
    • Average athlete. Bad ball handler who needs to improve instincts at both ends.

    Cousin played only 17 NBA minutes but had a strong D-League season for the Spurs' affiliate in Austin, showing he can be an effective pick-and-pop force and defend reasonably well against size. He has a low motor and had three turnovers for every assist in the D-League, however, so don't expect much offense beyond making midrange shots off the catch.
     
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    Hollinger always had some unwarranted hatred for Flynn, and seems to ignore the fact he was barely a shell of himself last year, health-wise. Not to mention how their offense was anything but conducive for what he does well.

    Hollinger's basketball knowledge always falls short of his statistical analysis.
     
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    A lot of those guys have questionable motors......

    PPatt I think B+ athlete to A- once he feels good after the ankle injury

    JHill projected with 15 and 11rbs......nice one! high foul rate and lacking upper body, torso strength to keep him away from fouling
    I like that

    MarcusM. not a good rebounder, DECENT lateral quickness.....so quickness is ok...


    We'll see about Twill, Hasheem, Lin.......
     
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    Wow he rips the Rockets apart O_O

    We have like, 1 good defender in Lee, and that's it?
     
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    Nearly everything he says is complete BS. Ive never liked Hollinger and this article really just pissed me off!
     
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    So according to Hollinger Rockets are going to avg at least 150 ppg
     
  10. DaDakota

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    per 40mpg stats.......none of them will average 40mpg.

    DD
     
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    Oh thanks for making me feel like an idiot......great
     
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    that's per 40 minutes. not every player is going to play 40 minutes
     
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    If our players perform as Hollinger projects them to, we will have 5 wins this season.
     
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    Anyone notice on there picture, with Matin, Scola and Lowry, that there folder shows the logo, but says Milwauke Bucks, 2011-12

    [​IMG]
     
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    well he gave lowry a lot of credit, and he said PP should "become" a good defender
     
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    That's hilarious!
     
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    Hollinger practically said Ppatt and TLawson will put up near allstar type of numbers
     
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    I'm pretty sure Hollinger has been wrong on almost every preseason projection the past couple of years, maybe someone with insider can dig them up.
     
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    I'm not going to say I share his views but I found it to be a good read, you can't expect him to approach it like you or like a fan of the team would do.
     
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    Sorry, fixed it.
     

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