Now that the trade is over, lets get some positives out of this. You can say anything about that it was a stupid deal, but its done. And we can't say anything to change the past. First off, we look at the first 3 position spots: PG-Steve Francis SG-Cuttino Mobley SF-Glen Rice Does this remind anybody of ummm....maybe: PG-Sam "I am" Cassell SG-Ray Allen SF-Big Dog Robinson Surprisingly, the Bucks did wonders with them three. They went all the way the the Eastern Conference Finals, yes i know, the east isnt tough. Our BIG THREE, looks great!! Maybe we can pull off a Bucks '01 next season. Plus we have a better PF in Mo Tay. Center N/A. I think with the new zone defense's we can excel greatly. But we still need rebounding. But I say that if Milwaukee can do it, SO CAN WE!!!
We have Taylor and Griffen as 4th and 5th options. They have Thomas and whomever. We win there. Anyways this has already been mentioned but Im not hunting for the link. Im sure someone will though.
Nugzfan, i guess you see what i see. This would be good in the east, but its not. The bucks had way more talent than anyone in the east, but what did them in in game 7 was 20rebs by deke. Look at the games the bucks lost to philly and i can almost guarantee that deke had 7 or 8 offensive rebs. How many times did i see deke getting rebs off missed free throws? People don't realize that you cant run without the ball. People also make the mistake thinking that a high scoring team means a fast breaking team which is not true. The bucks score because of the motion in their offense and the 4 legit scores they have. Just because they have good 1 on 1 players, very rarely did Karl iso half the floor and have 4 guys standing around looking. Sacremento plays with motion, dallas, utah, and La. If Rudy gets his players in motion, they could have scored more. He's the same guy that had pip standing waiting on 3's.
I was just thinking this myself. I think our whole team looks kind of like the Bucks from last season, only younger and even more talented. PG: Francis/Cassell - Both high scoring all-star PG's and team leaders SG: Mobley/Allen - Both athletic good shooting all-star (Not yet cause of Kobe and Finley ) caliber SG's SF: Rice/Robinson - Robinson is still considered an all-star, Rice considered a former all-star...but with the zone rules I think Rice will be close to Robinson in scoring avg PF: Taylor/Williams - Both good shooting PF's. Williams a better rebounder, but Taylor a much better scorer C: White (PLEASE!!!)/Johnson - Both low-scoring, strong, excellent shot-blocking and rebounding centers 6th man: Griffin/Thomas - Both tall lengthy enigmas off the bench with amazing potential that can score/rebound/block shots. Both left college early, Thomas drafted in 97-98 is still developing. Griffin expected by many to be a future star. Thomas said to "have the potential to be THE BEST player in the NBA" by superstar teammate Ray Allen in SLAM magazine Backup PG's: Mooch/Hunter - LAST YEARS BUCKS atleast had a starting quality (on some teams) backup PG, as do we. After that stupidist trade in NBA History!!!(not really but...) they'll have to use And1 baller Rafer "Skip-to-my-lou" Alston Backup SG's: Neither team really has one. They both just move pg's/sf's there occasionally Backup SF's: Griffin & TMo & Langhi (Walt traded for Jahidi Bull on Hornets)/Thomas & Ham - Both teams have EXCELLENT backup SF's. Griffin and Thomas mentioned above... Backup PF's: Griffin & K. Thomas/T. Thomas & Caffey - There's Griffin and Thomas again, with their similar builds they are tall enough to play PF, but both need to bulk up some more as well...KT and Caffey both the same kind of hustling, scrappy players that are capable of having a big scoring night in any game as well Backup C's: Cato & Collier/Foster & Pryzbilla - Both teams weak here. Foster sucks and Cato's just lazy. Collier and Pryzbilla are both stiffs that we traded for each other (we got a pick though haha!)
the bucks swept the regular season series against the lakers last year... Dec 12 Tue @ L.A. Lakers W 109-105 Mar 21 Wed L.A. Lakers W 107-100
This is mostly dependent on Rice. But if you take Robinson and Rice (difficult to predict) out of the equation, then the Bucks duo is only slightly better than the Rockets. And I think our frontcourt is better. If the Bucks style of play was only effective against Eastern-type teams, then they wouldn't have swept the top 4 Western Conference teams.
I did... "Anyways this has already been mentioned but Im not hunting for the link. Im sure someone will though."
NugzFan, I generally agree w/ most of your posts... But Francis/Mobley alone is better than Cassell/Allen/Robinson. The bucks trio (amazing that this is actually possible) plays even less D than the Rox backcourt and one could argue as close to absolute zero as is achievable. Another problem is that they all (Allen to a lesser degree) are selfish as hell. Sure Cassell racks up assists, but only at the pleading of his coach to pass the ball b4 he brings out the Fun Police to take him away! Glenn Robinson, IMHO, is the biggest joke All-Star in recent memory. The guy does not pass, does not have a brain, and does not EVER deliver in the clutch in big games. In fact, the Bucks would be wise to bench him in favor of TIm Thomas when the game's on the line. There is a reason Cassell and GRobinson are on the trading block every single year. Now, Glen Rice is no perfect player either. But as long as he somewhat blends into this team and doesn't get in Francis/Cat's way, I would take our go-to guys over the Bucks' any day.
Thanks Zigg! I cant wait for the Rockets vs Bucks. It would be 143 to 139. Rockets win. Everyone will have the green light like they were Vernon Maxwell.
Uh , 2 problems : 1. Their big three isn't better then ours. 2. We play in the west, and we'll still finish ahead of you. Get of our damn board if you're gonna be an @$$. Your team will be lotto bound for what, ten years in a row ? Merry Christmas.
Let's analyze Mil-ee-walk-ay's big 3. Ray Allen is a stud. A poor man's Drexler or Bryant. Sam Cassell is a flashy point guard who will make himself look good before his teammates. It's true. It's damn true. Glen Robinson is an athletic version of Walt Williams. He rebounds a little bit better then Walt, but he also demands a lot more trades.
the rockets don't really have the West's version of the bucks. for one, the bucks have the guys in the paint that bangs. scott williams, darvin ham, tim thomas etc. they all rebound and hustle. we lack that big time. their big three are very good. ray allen is a great shooting guard--excellent 3pt shooter and an even better FT shooter. cassell is sort of a streaky shooter and will get his 8-9 assists a game. glenn robinson is underrated imo. he can flat out shoot and he DOES rebound and work in the paint by what i saw from the playoffs. as i'm saying all this, i realize why can't the bucks beat the rockets? i have no idea.....hmm...........
Stop kidding yourselves. Rockets big three are not Bucks big three. Cassell is a clutch player, he likes to take charge of game, likes to make big shots. Francis is better overall talent but when it comes to playoffs would still go with Casell because of his heart. Glenn Robinson can do everything Rice can do and is much younger. Dont even think about comparing Ray Allen to Mobley. Allen is one of the purest and deadliest shooters in game. Mobley is good but he jacks up way to many ridiculous shots with the game on line. Enough with the big three though. Bucks have low post presence, soething that the Rockets have none of People who can rebound and block shots. I am sorry, but Rockets dont have anyone who can compare to Tim Thomas and Eddie Johnson. Johnson is one the main reasons why buck gets chances to run because of his shot-altering defence and his rebounding. Who do the Rockets have as rebounder?? When your point guard is the best rebounder on the team, you arent going to get many chances to run and gun. You will be fighting to keep the other team off the offensive glass.
You're right. The Rockets <b>don't</b> have anyone who can compare with Eddie Johnson. But neither do the Bucks, because he retired. I believe you are thinking of Ervin Johnson. The Rockets DID have him for a little while. Remember that shot against the Jazz in game 4? I do.
