Got this statement from the Rockets... <i>Carroll Dawson, General Manager of the Houston Rockets, released the following statement today regarding the status of Houston's August 10 trade with New York and Dallas: "All of Glen Rice's medical information has been forwarded to our team physicians as of late this afternoon. The Rockets organization and our team physicians will examine the data and announce a decision by Friday at noon."</i>
Well, at least that will keep everyone speculating and posting all week! I think someone has stated elsewhere that 12 noon Friday is the deadline...
This is weird. If the Rockets were ready to nix the deal they would have 1.) Done it by now and, 2.) Told Glen Rice. Instead the deal is still around, and Rice is telling everyone that he will be a Rocket. Either way I say try and get something. Oeilpere, Doc, is Othella still on the block or anything?
something's uuuup...! Thanos, Come out of fantasy mode. The Rockets did not schedule press conferences and praise Glen Rice and his fit on the team just to change their mind overnight, after a trade had been agreed to. NBA teams don't do that. If Rice doesn't come, it's a health issue only. That said, I damn sure hope they approve the trade...
I have a gut feeling Rice will be a Rocket on Friday. RT and CD were satisfied with the results of his physical. Rice also seems confident he'll be sporting the pinstripes this season.
Aw, c'mon cat, gimme a break. Your eternal support of anything rocket related, be it player, management or whatever it is related is annoying sometimes. I'm not into any fantasy mode. You have to admit that something fishy is going on here. This entire situation is completely out of character for Les and I can't believe this scenario is taking so long to come to a solution. I never said, gee the Lakers called and offered Kobe for Shandon. Maybe they are having second thoughts as the public reaction to this trade has been FAR from stellar AND his health is indeed a concern. Who knows? And I hope Rice is sent back ASAP. There are other takers for Shadon as OP has already pointed out in his thread.
Your eternal support of anything rocket related, be it player, management or whatever it is related is annoying sometimes. Do I look like I support Kelvin Cato? Shandon Anderson? I support moves, players, and such that have earned support. I'm not near the only one in support of this trade, and I highly doubt every one of us is blinded by our love for the Rockets. National analysts have been in favor of the trade as well. There is a vast difference between pessimism and realism. Maybe they are having second thoughts as the public reaction to this trade has been FAR from stellar AND his health is indeed a concern. Who knows? Almost everyone on the radio here has been quite impressed with the trade, and after recovering from the initial shock of Rice's contract, the votes for the front page of this site have been extremely lopsided in the favor of Glen Rice. Most people anticipated greater cap problems than those that exist.
Well Cat you better Doc Rocket to stop dreaming because he hinted that it might be possible that the Rockets are "manuevering" a bit. You don't just come this close to having a press conference announcing the trade after a physical and then suddenly stop it unless something is happening. What it is, I don't know.
Now THAT'S a great point you have. I am a pessimist because I don't agree with the trade and I don't think Rice fits the team? Can't argue with that logic. And last I checked "every one of us" is a LEAST a dozen posters shy from the truth as I am certainly not the only one against this trade around here. Supporting Cato would be utter insanity. Though you have made a few exaggerations in the past, regarding both Mo and Collier, you are far from being insane... National analysts such as who? Since when analysts are qualified about anything? They don't have a clue as to what the Rockets are about, and you know that as well as I do. EVERY analysis outside of Houston I've read looks at the trade from the Knicks perspective and sees the Rocks as an afterthought! My problems with this trade don't have anything to do with the cap, even though I have to admit that after looking forward so much to our incoming free agency and our chances of getting webber, landing Rice and losing Hakeem doesn't excite me one bit. Of course, the Griffin trade was a tour-de-force, but that's another matter. I just DON'T think that Rice fits the team, for reasons I have stated a hundred times over already, so I wont bother you with them again... And last I checked, the voting looked like a split to me. FAR from a no-brainer. If this goes through, we are going to regret it like we did Pippen. bet on it.
Well Cat you better Doc Rocket to stop dreaming because he hinted that it might be possible that the Rockets are "manuevering" a bit. Doc to me clearly implied that CD might be manuevering with New York. I could see CD asking the Knicks to put in another player such as Othella Harrington for "risk compensation", although it's unlikely. There are certain things you don't do in the NBA, and you don't change needs overnight. The Rockets might want some compensation for that risk and could be manuevering for that, but they won't give up Rice unless he has serious health problems. And that would be a move based on the issue of health, not a change in desire. NBA teams don't do a total flip-flop on the types of players they want overnight. If Rice goes back, it will be because of his health, not because the Rockets suddenly decided that he wasn't right for their team.
I don't think the Rockets will regret it like the Pippen deal because Pippen pretty much refused to try to fit in and quit on the team. Rice might grumble, but he is a team player on the floor. With that being said, I can respect the people who disagree with the deal because while I love this deal, it isn't a no-brainer. I agree with you about the compensation part Cat, and I think that is what MIGHT be happening. I just don't see the Rockets giving up on Glen Rice It is clouded in mystery. I still feel the trade will go through, and the only way you can convince the people that disagree with the deal that he fits is for Rice to play with the team. Then again the reverse could be proven as well, but that's what makes this fun!
Now THAT'S a great point you have. I am a pessimist because I don't agree with the trade and I don't think Rice fits the team? Can't argue with that logic. And last I checked "every one of us" is a LEAST a dozen posters shy from the truth as I am certainly not the only one against this trade around here. Read my post again. The "every one of us" bit refers to every one of us in support of the trade, not the entire BBS. Also, I did not call you specifically a pessimist, but a large majority of the posters with your arguments are the same ones against almost every personnell move the Rockets make. They claim to be the realists, which is not always true at all. I didn't intend to call you specifically a pessimist, but a large majority of the posters in your corner and using your arguments historically are. I was more addressing the opponents of the trade in general, not just you. By the way, I'd guess almost everyone on the BBS is more positive than I am on Cato, reading the threads the past view days. I can't see him getting 7-10 rebounds and 7-10 points, even if he starts. He'll get hurt by the end of the first month even if he does start displaying some potential. And last I checked, the voting looked like a split to me. FAR from a no-brainer. If this goes through, we are going to regret it like we did Pippen. bet on it. The voting was about 80/20 against the trade early (through 800-900 votes), and is now in favor of the trade. Ever since people have had time to analyze and think through the trade, it has been roughly 80/20 in favor of the trade. If this goes through, we will be at least a 6 seed in the playoffs, and probably higher. I will bet on it.
No doubt with the injury he sustained, Rice will still be a rockets. Unless something else is in the air!
I can't make that bet as I would never root against the rockets just to prove my point, Cat. If Rice is indeed signed, I hope he fits and that you guys are right. You just pissed me off with the fantasy GM line because I never said the deal was going to fall through because of something like that. The thought just crossed my mind. Wishful thinking I suppose. But not seriously. That would damage the Rockets reputation beyond repair. What I DO entertain, on the other hand, are the possibilities that OP has said are on the table for Shandon IF Rice indeed proves to be damaged goods. Curry, Miller, Atlanta, Detroit... I still think we could find a better deal for Shandon out there. But then again, that's just my point of view.
I'm one of those people who are against the trade. I don't think the trade is bad because Rice is that bad of a player, I think its bad because in 3 yrs or sooner the Rockets will either lose him or trade him. Stability is the key to becoming a consistent winner in the nba. Thats one of the main reasons the traiblazers can't find their way back to the finals. Portland has been to the conf finals 2 of the past 3 yrs, yet they haven't made it to the finals. While the blazers were making the conf finals, they did it with 2 different starting lineups. Everyone wants the Rockets to maybe make the playoffs as a 7th or 8th seed, play LA or SA, get the $..t kicked out them and count that as progress. The T' Wolves has been in the playoffs the last 3 or 4 years, yet they wind up 7 or 8 and get whipped. The T'Wolves have a playoff team, but no one is close to calling them a championship team and they have one of the top 10 players in the league. I don't want the Rockets teams of the late 80's early 90's (90,91,92,), making the playoffs getting ousted in the first round. The team I want is the one that was together for 3 or 4 yrs and matured together, then added role players to complete the puzzle. The Rockets have 2 possible stars in Francis and Griffin, a real good player in Mobley, and complementary players like Cato, thomas, Langhi, Morris, Moochie, Collier, and Taylor. I want to see them go with that for 3 yrs and then evaluate the progress of the franchise. T'Wolves haven't done anything except make the playoffs and win a grand total of 2 playoff games. The worst thing you can be is mediocre.
I'm not in favor of this trade. The Rockets are getting damaged goods. Rice should have surgery on his foot. Until Rice has surgery he will be off & on the IR. I doubt that he be a significant contributor next year.
That isn't true. He wore the cast as a way to rest the foot. It had nothing to do with having surgery. His doctor in Miami said he did not have to have surgery but putting it in a cast would allow it to completely rest.
