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Rocket only team in West that can Challenge the Spurs

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Zacatecas, Jun 8, 2005.

  1. Zacatecas

    Zacatecas Member

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    It's sad that we keep hearing that the Rockets could not get out of the 1st round. Here we have national sports media consistently talk about it. There are the goofs in Orlando who keep bringing it up each time they can. But let us not forget one thing, before Howard went down, the Rockets were playing like a well oiled machine. After he went down they stumbled a little then again ended the season on a tear. But, they became more of a running team, "more like the Suns".

    Nevertheless, the Rockets could not overcome the loss of Howard and his nice shooting to go along with his 7 to 8 rebound a game. Let's be serious, if any team in the NBA had Howard and Padget, who would start Padget or Bowen instead and think they'd have a better shot at winning a game?

    For some reason, every time a team has a player out for an extended period of time, you keep hearing about it all through the game by the announcers. But, how many times did the announcer bring up the point that Howard was hurt. The only time, they bring him up was to say that he could probably not guard Nowitski.

    Howard without a doubt was the third best player on this team when they got on a tear before losing him to the injury. It would have been sweet to have seen this team play at its full strenght. This team without a doubt could have beaten Phoenix and made it a lot more interesting in the WCF.

    Who, know if it weren't for Howard injury, the Rockets could still be playing.
     
  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Yep,

    We certainly would have gotten past Dallas and probably Phoenix as well.

    DD
     
  3. GRENDEL

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    I agree, the team before Howard's injury was really coming into shape.

    It was a true statement from the other players on the team with regards to how well they finished the season without Howard.

    I think if the team would have had Howard, injury never occured, we would have gotten to the WCF

    Sometimes it's those role players that make a huge difference.
     
  4. edc

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    Doubtful.
     
  5. JuanValdez

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    I agree. I seriously doubt we'd have beaten Phoenix, and I don't know that we'd fare any better against Dallas than we did. But these could-have-beens are pointless; who knows what would have happened if Howard was available.

    I was waiting for Zacatecas to get to the part about Houston being the only western team that can challenge the Spurs. I'm not seeing that at all. We're a good team, but we aren't that special.
     
  6. Willis25

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    wow... must needed insights - as always - courtesy of edc


    Also, - I still want to know why Mr. Fire JVG uses the hadle "edc" - and "Mr. We will win the rest of the games this season' uses "ced" (the same letters in a different order

    .... AND I have never seen you two show up in the same thread

    ... is there a split personality ?!? ... are you guys twins separated at birth ????!?!?

    ..... maybe one of you has a goatee and comes from a parallel (but evil) universe !

    [​IMG]
     
  7. apostolic3

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    Agreed. We all love our team and respect the Spurs, but let's not get ridiculous. I think the Sonics would have beaten the Spurs if Rashard and Vladimir Radmanovic would have been at full strength. The Spurs are good, but they aren't God's greatest gift to the Western Conference for years to come. Let them earn that distinction on the court before we anoint them.
     
  8. rvpals

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    Please don't bring it up no more. I'm still not over gettin screw by the refs in a series we should have won. We could get pass Phoenix too. I don't know about the Spurs, but Rockets vs Spurs in West Final will be hell of a serie.
     
  9. edc

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    Thank you. Your little scribbles continue to be unamusing.
     
  10. Willis25

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    and your little scribbles continue to be uninsightful

    ... now relax and close your eyes... we want to talk to CED...



    [​IMG]
     
  11. Brando2101

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    I think we might of been able to beat pheonix but i don't think we would of had a chance against San Antonio.

    In all reality we were 1-3 against them in the regualr season (that t-mac win was insane. they should of beat us) and in the last loss Tim Duncan wasnt even playing. WE just don't match up well against them and can't take advantage of our half court game the way we could against pheonix and dallas. You can get those teams out of rhythm by slowing things down but San Antonio can play comfortably half or full.
     
  12. edc

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    I have no clue what you are on about. Perhaps you have gone beyond the glasses, and are living entirely in Jeff Van Gundy's world. The Rockets lost four of five, including the worst game seven loss in the history of the NBA. Juwan Howard would not have changed that.

    BTW, your little scribbles are not amusing.
     
  13. bigbodymoe

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    Well, I absolutely do think that if the Rockets stay healthy and plug the holes in their lineups, they (along with a few others) will be chasing San Antonio for Western supremacy for years to come.

    Let's face it, the Spurs have a young nucleus for the next 5-6 years with Duncan, Genobili, and Parker, who all are entering their prime years during this period. Furthermore, their management has been nothing short of exceptional in their personnel moves, in that they have always found a way to acquire the right pieces and continue to keep their team at the top year after year.

    I do believe that every team in the West should be building a team that directly aims at defeating the Spurs, because they are the standard of the Western Conf.

    I think the good thing is that the Rockets have the main pieces, but are yet to build a deep team of complimentary players that would enable us to challenge the likes of the Spurs. I believe we will get those necessary pieces in the next 2 seasons, and then it will be entirely up to T-Mac and Yao to lead the team to success. Then, and only then, will we truly be able to know where we stand.
     
  14. bfunw

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    Correct me if i'm wrong, but i thought we were 2-2 against them. (t-mac thing and some other game)
     
  15. apostolic3

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    bfunw, you are correct. The home team won all 4 games.
     
  16. terse

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    Remember what happened just before the end of the Rockets/Mavs series? Nash came out and said how much he would prefer to face the Mavs instead of the Rockets in the next round. The excuse he gave was that it would be fun to play against his buddy Dirk, but I doubt that was the whole reason.

    I think Nash was seriously frightened about playing us: Yao had proven that he could totally shut down Amare even while scoring tons of points at the other end of the court. Amare's season shooting average this season was .559, but against us he averaged only .433. Conversely, Yao averaged .537 and 2.75 blocks/game against the Suns. That is a serious advantage.

    And the Suns are not one of the two other teams in the whole NBA who has anybody like T-Mac.

    Furthermore, we can play a tough defensive half-court game, much like the Spurs -- and we all saw how long the Suns lasted against Duncan and Co.

    So yes, if Howard were healthy we probably would have gotten past the Suns in 6 games.
     
  17. NewYorker

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    I doubt an MVP has room enough in his ego to fear anyone. That's a couch's job.

    I will say this, I don't think we can claim to have challenged San Antonio when we lost to a team that lost to a team that nearly got swept by San Antonio.

    Cold hard facts is that Houston just wasn't a contender. I know I took a lot of flak when i said that, and eventually I got carried away and thought they were in fact contenders...just goes to show - love is blind...
     

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