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Robertson Accuses Chavez of Seeking Nuclear Material From Iran

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by tigermission1, Oct 10, 2005.

  1. tigermission1

    tigermission1 Member

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    Here we go again...

    Robertson also said yesterday that "sources that came to me"

    Anyone care to venture who those 'sources' are?


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/09/AR2005100901256.html?nav=rss_world

    Robertson Accuses Chavez of Seeking Nuclear Material From Iran

    Pat Robertson, the Christian Coalition founder, told CNN's "Late Edition" yesterday that Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez is negotiating with Iran for nuclear material and sent $1.2 million to terrorist Osama bin Laden.

    Chavez is creating a Marxist-like dictatorship in his country and is trying to spread Marxism in South America, Robertson said on the program.

    "One day we're going to be staring at nuclear weapons and it won't be Katrina facing New Orleans, it's going to be a Venezuelan nuke," Robertson said in an interview.

    On Aug. 22, Robertson told viewers of "The 700 Club" program that the United States should kill Chavez to prevent the Latin American country from becoming a "launching pad" for extremism. The next day, the television evangelist said his comments were misinterpreted.

    Robertson also said yesterday that "sources that came to me" told him that Venezuela sent money to bin Laden after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. He also said Chavez befriended Moammar Gaddafi of Libya and "these people who are considered terrorists."

    Relations between Venezuela, the world's fifth-largest oil producer, and the United States have eroded since Chavez took office in February 1999.

    Last month, Chavez used a speech before the U.N. General Assembly and a news conference to attack the United States, saying, "It is a terrorist state. It is a government that violates all rules and behaves shamelessly" because of its actions in Iraq, Robertson's assassination comment and the U.S. refusal to extradite Luis Posada Carriles, who is wanted for the bombing of a Cuban airliner.
     
  2. Saint Louis

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    God of course. Same person who talks to GWB.
     
  3. glynch

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    What has Chavez done to Robertson?

    Maybe the PTL Club is getting poor ratings in Venezuela? Robertson is only worth a couple of hundred million dollaras and this could be cutting into his income.

    Maybe he is pissed off that Chavez is feeding, educating and giving health care to the poor, so they don't have to attend these Evangelical churches anymore where they must hear the speel if they need these services?

    We may all laugh at Robertson, the nutcase, but he has millions who follow his every word. Next to the wealthy tax break seekers, they are among the most loyal of the Republican coalition.
     
  4. Rocket River

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    Dear Pat Robertson,
    As a Christian I sincerely wish you would just shut the f*ck up.

    Sincerely,
    Christians with intelligence [no not an intelligence network but the simple
    God given ability to process knowledge]


    Rocket River
     
  5. RocketMan Tex

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    The purple monkeys that fly out of Pat Robertson's ass several times a day, that's who! :D
     
  6. HayesStreet

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    This attitude shows a purposeful ignorance of all the good things evangelical organizations do around the world. But then the far far far left has always worked tirelessly to tear down religion.

    Chavez is far from an angel as some would have you believe. However I think the best thing to do is to ignore him when possible. The less we interfere the faster he'll collapse Venezuela's economy and get booted out.
     
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  7. SamFisher

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    Every time PR says something ludicrous about Hugo Chavez it only shores up Chavez's domestic support even more. It's to the point where it seems like he's got to be working for him, it's ridiculous.
     
  8. HayesStreet

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    Yep, and just makes us look stupid. Bush needs to ask Robertson to shut up. Ignore him he'll be gone soon enough.
     
  9. glynch

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    It is true that Evangelicals do some good charity work around the world. In this country and in others they often vote to destroy the welfare state which does much more than off set their charity. It is no accident that in the social welfare states of Western Europe, despite a relative scarcity of Evangelicals, the material needs of the poor are met much more than in the US and other countries where the Evangelicals are a strong force.

    Hayes, I am glad that you aren't up for death squads, torture and invasions yet in Venezuela-- as you often support on this forum.
     
  10. glynch

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    Bush and Robertrson are really two peas in a pod.
     
  11. Deckard

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    Bush makes our country look stupid enough without help from Robertson. I think Chavez is a dangerous demagogue, and I agree that all Robertson is doing is helping him at home, while making the States look even more foolish to the rest of the world.



    Keep D&D Civil.
     
  12. HayesStreet

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    Yes, they do. And your last post sarcastically implied otherwise.

    Nice change of argument - from evangelicals in the third world to in the US. Maybe Europe has a better welfare state because we've been paying for their security for the last 6+ decades.

    Do I often support death squads, torture, and the invasion of Venezuela? Please cite a single instance where I've done this. I've been here in D&D awhile now so it shouldn't be a problem if I 'often support (it) on this forum' as you claim.

    Other than Robertson being a good businessman, you're probably right.

    Oh - as you know I'm a big fan of neither Bush nor Chavez.
     
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    Later in the interview, Robertson declared "I've pooped myself!"

    Seriously, who gives a flying crap about this guy?

    "[Feminism is] a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians."
    -Pat Robertson, 1992 Republican National Convention
     
  15. Bullard4Life

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    Thanks for the read Sam. You gotta warm up to Chavez when you hear things like this:

    "After Hurricane Katrina, Mr. Chávez loudly accused Mr. Bush of bungling the rescue effort. On his trip to New York for a United Nations summit meeting in September, he made it a point to veer into two heavily Democratic and poor neighborhoods of the Bronx, where he offered to provide home heating oil at cut-rate prices and to underwrite an environmental study of the polluted Bronx River.

    "He said, 'I don't have a problem with the American people; I have some problems with some people in the American government,' " recounted Representative Jose E. Serrano, a Bronx Democrat who had invited Mr. Chávez to the borough. "He then held up both flags.""
     
  16. tigermission1

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    IMO, the whole 'rift' with Chavez is nothing more than a reflection of the American elite class' contemptuous attitude towards anything deemed 'socialist''

    Therefore, I don't think it's because of the oil or anything else, but as history has shown time and time again, the best way to draw the ire of the American government is to adopt socialism (or some variation of it) as a matter of economic policy.
     
  17. No Worries

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    Chavez has made nice with Castro and Cuba. Thus, Chavez is a god hating commie.

    Of course, the US made nice with China, but there must be a really big difference between this and that.
     
  18. glynch

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    Well it was sarcasm. Glad you picked up on it.

    Did you now that in the past right wingers in the US, who are not Evangelicals have subsidized the export of evangelical missionaries to Latin America to try to draw converts from the Catholiic Church that they were afraiid was gettting too liberal.

    Talking about changing the subject, I never said you supported torture, death squads and invasions YET in Venezulea. You have supported these tactics in other countries. In fact I said I'm glad you haven't supported these tactics YET in Venezuela, so how should I be expected to cite instances where you have.
     
  19. VinceCarter

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    Damn...if they go after Chavez there will be instability in the oil industry....causing Gas prices to go up again :eek: ....hopefully nothin happens....i need to drive my car.
     
  20. FranchiseBlade

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    The ruling class who America has done business with is scared of Chavez. He has helped the standard of living of the poor in his country 33%. That is huge. He has done it partially at the expense of the ruling class, and wealthy there. He continues to come up with ways to help them, and it is a direct threat to the extremely wealthy in this country who can't do business as usual with someone like Chavez.
     

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