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Risk Analysts

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Pharaoh King, Mar 14, 2010.

  1. Pharaoh King

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    I have a couple of people that I know who work as risk analysts, mostly in the oil and gas industry (Shell and BP). They do pretty damn well for themselves with just a bachelor's degree. One of them (only 25 as of this writing) is already a senior risk analyst at Shell.

    Since I am looking to go back to school and get a degree somewhat related to analytics or numbers, I am wondering what is the best degree I can get that would prepare me for a career as a risk analyst? My friend who works at Shell has a BS in applied math and a minor in business from UT. She tells me this is the best route to take since the stronger you are with numbers, the more attractive you look to employers. Others say just a good old finance/accounting BBA or a degree in economics would do. I was thinking maybe I should focus exclusively on Statistics (applied statistics major?) and go with that.

    Any input would be great, I am trying to find the best way to make myself marketable in these type of positions which deal with numbers and markets and maybe even investment banking down the line, but my primary interest is the oil and gas industry. Also, any specific college programs you would recommend that have a reputation for being heavily scouted by oil and gas giants?

    Thx! :)
     
  2. DonnyMost

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    I'm guessing that is a connections oriented job, really.
     
  3. rsx_htown

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    UH Gem program or the Tulane equivalent.
     
  4. Pharaoh King

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    I heard great things about the UH GEM program, and a lot of its graduates seem to be doing quite well. I wonder though if going for a finance major at UT would be better than getting a finance degree from UH? I know Bauer is top notch, but does the UT program have as many connections to the oil and gas industry as the UH program? I know for a fact that oil and gas giants make a point of recruiting UH graduates because of a standing relationship with the university. Of course, UT is a more prestigious college and quite possibly the best public school in the nation, but I am not so sure about their business program or how well regarded it is in the energy industry, I have no point of reference.
     
  5. Duncan McDonuts

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    UT's business school is ranked #2 in the nation overall, but I'm not sure how well its energy connections are.
     
  6. rimrocker

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    If you really want to manage risk, become a firefighter.
     
  7. JuanValdez

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    I agree that demonstrating a competency in math will be helpful, but many majors would fit the bill. Statistics, math, engineering, physics, finance, etc. Some business would probably be helpful too. If you're looking at risk and dealing with markets, you might ask around about commodity trader jobs. Traders can make better money than the risk guys. But, there are definitely personality differences between the two. Traders seem to me to be like salesmen in personality; risk analysts are more analytical and staid.
     
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    According to who?
     
  9. Mr. Brightside

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    Traders= balls
    Analysts= no balls (or female)
     
  10. rimrocker

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    Both = servants to the Masters of the Universe and the corporate oligarchies that are ripping off America.

    Do something useful and productive with your lives. Do something you want to do. Do something that makes a difference, be it for one person or many. Don't just do something for money. You'll wake up one day and realize that in spite of the material things you have, your life sucks.
     
  11. Pharaoh King

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    I understand your sentiment, but I don't really see why I can't do both: have a valuable skill or trade and also be able to do good in my spare time. In fact, having a well paying career would enable me to do more good if I have a higher capacity for doing good or helping people around me. Being broke does not help me or anyone else around me.

    The harsh truth is this: I can't find a good paying job in my current field, and this is coming from someone with graduate credentials. I am analytical by nature and have some background in in any number of areas, even linguistic skills. However, I am struggling to find a suitable career. Sure, there are odd jobs one can do part time and I have one of those, and it is not bad pay, it is just not steady enough pay and certainly not enough to support a family. My job search has gone on for almost 3 years, and nothing suitable has come. I decided to pursue graduate school because I figured I might as well do something useful with my time while getting deeper into student debt :eek:

    Also, I have reached a point in my mind where I want to try and break into an industry with an international focus, and not American-centric. Being from and having family ties in the Middle East, my natural inclination is towards the energy sector. Frankly, I don't like the direction this country is headed into, and I see a future where I would benefit from a career that is flexible enough to travel and be useful to some employer based overseas, not just in America. With my linguistic and cultural backgrounds, and my education combined with a useful business skill, I hope to be able to better position myself as such.

    At this point, the only stable career I can have is working for the government in some capacity, and that is just not going to happen any time soon, especially not for some Middle Easterner with a Middle Eastern name. Outside of some clearance job with the feds, I have pretty much exhausted my options. Well, there is teaching, but who the heck wants to babysit a bunch of middle and high school kids from broke down families and a society that tells them acting out is a good way to assert your individualism? I hate spoiled brats and undisciplined kids and I certainly could never see myself serving in any capacity that requires me to counsel juvenile delinquents on daily basis. I admire those who can do just that, but it absolutely isn't for me. It doesn't obviously help any that I wholeheartedly disagree with our educational system.

    I think I said too much, I am sorry if any of this offends anyone.
     
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    If you are not from a Tier 1 school and you are trying to break into higher up finance work, you should think about applying overseas in Europe, China, Singapore, Japan or the Middle East. Reason being is any American candidate regardless of what school they came from- have an edge over a local candidate. Those hiring managers in foreign countries really don't know the difference between say Univ. of Texas, University of Houston and Rice. I know alot of people who interview for and eventually get great jobs overseas, in which they wouldn't even had a remote chance in hell of getting an interview in the States.
     
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    I'm unsure, but would UT be considered a Tier 1 school? They have a top 10 undergraduate B-School, and pretty reputable graduate B-school from what I've seen.

    What are your thoughts?
     
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    I knew UT has a great Accounting program, but I never heard they were a top-10 business school (undergrad or graduate).
     
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    UT has a good program, but their website for external transfers says they discourage people with first bachelor's degrees or more than 90 hours transferring to their programs. They also require the last 60 hours to be in residence at UT, while UH only requires the last 30 hours like most schools. I already have a bachelor's and some graduate credit even, but in a different field. What are my chances of getting into the UT program and would I qualify for some form of financial aid if I am pursuing my second bachelor's?

    Anyone here familiar with admission procedures at either school that can shed more light on the best route to take here?
     
  18. Big MAK

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    Any works. Finance/accounting/econ/stats/math. You just have to prove that you're able to do the work.
     
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    I'm considering very strongly to go back for my MBA.

    Anyone familiar with the admission process for the UT MBA Program at Houston?

    Here's the site, but I wanted to know if anyone has been through it or knows someone who has.
    http://www.mccombs.utexas.edu/texas-mba/working-professionals/houston/admissions-overview.asp

    I graduated with a BBA in marketing and management from UH in 2006

    I don't feel confident that my GPA is good enough, but I have a renewed focus in growing professionally. I just wish I had an opportunity before being judged by my GPA.
     
  20. madmonkey37

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    Take some open university classes to raise your GPA.
     

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