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Rim-man: Karl Rove will accept your apology

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Dec 5, 2007.

  1. basso

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    http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/..._backer_passed_along_obama_madrassa_email.php

    [rquoter]A day after the Hillary campaign hit the Obama camp for bullying voters in nasty phone calls, the Hillary crew has just acknowledged that an Iowa county chair volunteering for the campaign passed along the now-notorious email that smears Obama as a Muslim by repeating the false claim that he attended a madrassa as a child.

    The Hillary campaign confirms that they are asking the county chair to step down from the campaign.

    The charge was made by a Daily Kos diarist who identified himself as planning to "caucus" for Chris Dodd, suggesting that this happened in Iowa. In his diary he reported receiving the email:

    [rquoter]Over the past week or so, I have received two of the most hateful hit pieces on Obama parroting right wing talking points. One was forwarded to me from a Clinton county chair. The other was from a person who claimed to be a former Obama supporter, but a little work with Google revealed she had been posting pro-Clinton comments for several months on websites covering the campaign.

    They both repeat the Obama/Osama crap, andand the "madrassa" charges. And there is the conclusion that Obama is a mole whose intention is to make a Muslim revolution in the US.[/rquoter]

    In the comments section to the post, Hillary Internet guru Peter Daou passes along a statement from a top official at the Hillary campaign acknowledging that the email had in fact been sent by the Clinton county chair:

    Since seeing your post...we investigated this and below is a response from Clinton campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle:

    [rquoter]"There is no place in our campaign, or any campaign, for this kind of politics. A volunteer county coordinator made the mistake of forwarding an outrageous and offensive chain e-mail. This was wholly unauthorized and we were totally unaware of it. Let me be clear: No one should be engaging in this. We are asking this volunteer county coordinator to step down and are making it clear to every person involved in our campaign that this will not be tolerated."[/rquoter]

    The Hillary campaign confirmed to me that the statement is genuine.

    The identity of the "Clinton county chair" -- or, as the Hillary camp prefers it, "volunteer county coordinator" -- is not yet known. [/rquoter]
     
  2. underoverup

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    that is such a dumb thing to do, glad they were caught and fired.
     
  3. rimrocker

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    No apology. He stupidly forwarded a chain email and he suffered the consequences. The Clinton campaigned dealt with it immediately. Contrast that to Bush's (Rove's) avoidance of the swift Boat questions and the difference is striking. By the way, I wonder where that chain email originated?
     
  4. basso

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    so you pen hate filled post after hate filled post, essentially accusing republicans and rove of hating, and when it's it's conclusivily proved to be a dem-on-dem cat fight, your response is "no biggie."

    nice.
     
  5. rimrocker

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    Oh please. First, the only specific that has been conclusively proved is that a volunteer got an email and sent it on, and then was "fired" of her volunteer duties by the campaign. Second, get off your high horse and look around. Where was your condemnation of the more odious stuff done by Rove and others in support of the administration? Third, where did the original email come from? My guess is some right-winger, but if it is proved that it did come out of the Hillary campaign, I'll be the first to slam her. (And that's the crucial difference between most Dems and most supporters of this administration... we'll criticize when it's appropriate and we won't blindly salute and cheer on stuff that is plainly wrong.)

    The other things we conclusively know is that similar smear campaigns have originated within the GOP echo machine and that this particular smear originated with Fox and Drudge. The starters of the smear are the real story here. There will always be idiots on both sides who forward stupid stuff around, but the real culprits are the ones who came up with it in the first place.
     
  6. basso

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    link?
     
  7. SamFisher

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    U r rly smrt
     
  8. mc mark

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    Speaking of Rove.

    [​IMG]
     
  9. lpbman

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    This, I'm sure, is big ****, but outing a CIA operative is no biggie.
     
  10. Major

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    http://www.thebostonchannel.com/politics/10836367/detail.html


    The contention that Obama was educated at a radical Muslim madrassa surfaced on the Web site of the conservative Insight magazine the day after Obama announced he was jumping into the 2008 presidential race. Conservative Internet blogs and the Fox News Channel picked up the story and spread the charges just as his candidacy was getting off the ground.
     
  11. basso

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    who, or what, is "Insight" magazine? an d fox reports- you decide.
     
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    I guess that's as close to admission that it was indeed right wing organizations that we will get from you, after you asked for a link, and were provided one.
     
  13. B-Bob

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    It's weak to present a verb like "forwarded" as if it means "wrote."

    Some person forwarded a chain email. How is that person responsible for creating the content and the ideas, any more than basso or rimrocker are responsible for the links they choose to post?

    Person had bad, inappropriate judgment. Person was fairly quickly terminated. (shrug).
     
  14. SamFisher

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    I quote your post thus I originated you.

    I AM YOUR DADDY

    DO NOT FORGET

    B-BOB
     
  15. Major

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    Except FOX decides what is newsworthy and credible vs what is not. They were the only network to run and spread the story.
     
  16. rimrocker

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    Really now. I find it hard to believe that you post from the sources you do and have never heard of Insight. It'd be like me claiming I've never heard of the NYTimes, who, coincidentally published this article...

    OK, you got me. Drudge didn't link to the original report.
     
  17. George Gervin

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    I never knew Fox was a mouthpiece for republicans.. :rolleyes:
     

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