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Right Wing pundits go after a child who lost his mother.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by FranchiseBlade, Mar 18, 2010.

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  1. FranchiseBlade

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    I can't wait to see giddyup defend this.

    It's shameful.

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    I didn't care for the comments made by Beck and Limbough. But putting these children on TV like this is terrible. I lose respect for both sides on this issue.
     
  3. DonnyMost

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    "putting these children on tv"

    there's an important word in there, somewhere...
     
  4. rhino17

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    Rush and Beck did not say anything about the kid at all, they talked about what he was being used for. They never went after the kid himself, they went after the people behind putting the kid up there and the organizations themselves.
     
  5. FranchiseBlade

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    This is a kid who lost his mother due to lack of health care. I don't think he's being forced into anything.
     
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    Do you really think a 5th grader knows much about the healthcare system? He did not write what he was saying on stage.

    And again, no one took any shots at the kid himself, the title is misleading
     
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  8. FranchiseBlade

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    Yeah attacking the kids family isn't like going after the kid.

    It's just crazy because they felt the need to attack at all. It's a 12 year old child who lost his mother. Why attack at all?
     
  9. FranchiseBlade

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    Actually some people did take shots at the kid himself.

    Unfortunately I think this 5th grader knows more than a 5th grader should have to know about it. He knows that his mother died because she didn't have health care. He and his family are trying to do something about it.
     
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    Again, they took no shots at the kid. They questioned whether or not the people running these organizations should be having an 11 year old going around telling his story. It is obviously an attempt to get an emotional response out of their audience. It's not an unreasonable claim to think that the misfortunes of this child are being exploited.
     
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    Rush saying that he would tell the kid to his face that his Mom would still be dead is POS thing to do, and is certainly an attack.

    Michelle Malkin called him a dubious poster boy for Dem care.

    These are attacks on a kid.
     
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    How is the Rush quote an attack? She'd still be dead, he should find that out sooner than later :rolleyes:

    I agree that the Malkin one is certainly an attack. Being labled a poster boy for anything involving Democrats is slander!
     
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    What Rush said is douchy, but not an attack on the kid, he was demonstrating a point. And if the kid truly knows as much about healthcare as you seem to think, I think he would be able to handle Rush saying that.

    There were not any clips from Michelle Malkin, but the quote they stated from her said he was a "human kiddy shield for the democratic party." That again is taking a shot at the dems for exploiting a child, not the kid himself.
     
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    The main target of the attack from Malkin is the Dem party. I agree with that. But the kid is also hit by the wide blast. Does a kid who lost his mother really deserve to be called a kiddy shield? or Dubious Poster Boy?

    The fact is that someone came out in support of the bill, and they had a knee jerk reaction to attack.
     
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    You really don;t think anyone on the other side is exploiting the kid's terrible situation?
     
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    If they are they are doing so for the devious purpose of saving lives. Republicans, on the other hand, are trying to prevent them from saving lives. Way to back the wrong team, rhino.
     
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    Of course it's an obvious attempt to get an emotional response from the audience. And it's about damn time the Dems started doing it. Do you think 'Death Panels!' was anything other than a (dishonest) attempt to get an emotional response from people?
     
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    WORD.

    The criticisms by Beck and Limbaugh are more about the puppeteers than the puppets.

    This is just a kinder version of Human Shielding; BOTH sides do it so as to discourage criticism by making the critics look heartless...

    ... but the Democrats try harder to make it into a crime against humanity.

    Another important note: why is it that people think that Universal Healthcare will make us immortal? People are still going to die.

    BTW, as the father of a daughter who was BORN UN-INSURABLE, I'm in favor of some kind of healthcare reform; I just don't think I want the Federal government as UberLord.... :grin:
     
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    Again Limbaugh saying he would tell the kid to his face that is mother would still be dead isn't like anything the Democrats would do. It's about someone bragging they would be cruel to a person who recently lost their mother.

    giddyup I recall you lost someone recently, it might have been an in-law, or someone in your family. I don't remember the details. I can't imagine that you would be delighted or wouldn't feel attacked if someone came out and said they were going to gleefully tell you to your face that the relative would still be dead.

    Beck's comments aren't as bad, because they are just bizarre and almost not even related to anything in the realm of reality. That automatically removes them. While Rush's comments aren't exactly 100% accurate or relevant in the slightest, they are just cruel.

    Even in war when they have what they call collateral casualties most people have the decency to feel bad about the innocents that are also hurt in the attack. Apparently you don't mind the sweeping attack at the Dems also attacks a child who lost his mother just because he was a secondary target and not the primary one.

    I don't understand how that makes it OK, and in this case I think I'd be worse off if I did understand that.
     
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    FB, as much as we disagree, I don't believe that you are really gullible enough to take that at face value. That's just Rush's style of sensationalism. He's either a lovable or detestable windbag, depending on your POV, but he is a windbag! I don't seem his as a real life Scrooge which he'd have to be to actually do something like that. That kind of talk is just a ratings ploy... and a barb to irritate people like you who hate him.

    Of course not but I don't spend a minute worrying about someone doing that. It only exists in the ether.

    I'd go with self-serving and stupid but isn't some of what he said factually true? This kid's mother's health problems began BEFORE Obama was even a US Senator. Some people are still going to die regardless of the healthcare program in place. I'm not trying to read her chart and neither is Rush.

    I must have missed the attack on the child.... do you think it was the kid's idea to be featured in a press conference like that?

    Much of, maybe even most of, modern politicking is disagreeable. We are all just more wounded by it when we are on the side that disagrees.
     

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