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Rick Adelman is a Gutless Yellow Pie-Slinger...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by burnnotice, Apr 29, 2009.

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  1. burnnotice

    burnnotice Rookie

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    He has Chuck Hayes in there with Carl Landry of all people in the 4th quarter. Then he went back to Yao and left Landry instead of Chuck and The Blazers went on a 15-0 run.

    15-0 run my friends. Turning point of the game. The Rockets used too much energy trying to come back late. Chuck was holding his own on the defensive end. You either bring Yao back for Landry or you keep Yao resting as long as the score is close.
     
  2. Hayesfan

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    You are so going to get flamed.

    Adelman subscribes to the "Chuck and Yao shouldn't be on the floor together" theory dude.

    You have to let it go.
     
  3. rwienert

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    first ever Chuck Only Fan??????
     
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    The NBA: Where Lemon Meringue Gets Catapulted from the Bench!
     
  5. cshen

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    i thought that was landry's fifth foul of the game.

    and like Hayesfan said, Yao and Hayes cannot play together.
     
  6. Deckard

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    And this "revelation" deserves its own thread why, exactly?
     
  7. ibm

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    why?

    but i agree, hindsight threads are meaningless.
     
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    marks0223 2017 and 2022 World Series Champions
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    Per the Hangout thread...just avoid this place today!
     
  9. burnnotice

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    Don't you guys ever get tired of the "Yao can't play with Chuck" routine?

    Grow a backbone you spineless weasels...
     
  10. redao

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    fourth quarter game flow:


    0-2:00 Yao+Landry +4
    2:00-3:20 Landry+Hayes +2

    then, Yao+Scola -8


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  11. Fyreball

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    Hmmm....let's count the reasons why you're an idiot :

    1) Your sig : JVG NEVER had the luxury of having TWO scoring PFs in Luis Scola and Carl Landry. Chuck Hayes and Juwan Howard were our power forwards for 2 years! Now, Chuck has been relegated to defensive stopper because his offense is ATROCIOUS. If you feel like he deserves more minutes than both Scola AND Landry, you're a moron.

    2) Not understanding fundamentals: Why can Chuck and Yao not co-exist on the court together?? The first quarter of last night's game, that's why! If Chuck is in there, those double teams that Yao gets will be TWICE as horrendous for us because we won't have a PF that can spread the floor and knock down the open jumper like Scola and Landry have been doing ALL SEASON LONG. Landry's game has taken a hit since he was shot, but all season long he's been knocking down those mid-range jumpers consistently. Why would you ever go away from what works??

    3) Insulting everyone on this board for no apparent reason: Spineless weasels? Gutless? I would hate to ever get in a REAL argument with you because you would probably just stab me or something. Get a sense of perspective.....jeez.
     
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    Get the game flow right.

    The real turning point wasn't when Yao came back in and Hayes went out, but when Artest came back in, and Carl went out. Carl was playing great, but then picked up his 5th foul. Portland was running Travis Outlaw at the 4 so Rick decided to sub Ron. The 4 point lead went away. Yao came in and the game was tied. Then Aaron Brooks came in and then Scola came in abotu 1:30 after Yao, by which point the team was now down three.

    Granted, it didn't get better from there, but that fact also ignores that the players closing the game were stuck with the foul situation that Lowry, Landry, Hayes and company put them in. The Blazers were already in the penalty. They shot 12 free throws in the 4th quarter, to Houston's zero...

    In hindsight, I do think it's fair to say Rick shouldn't have taken Landry out of the game. He was finally figuring out how to play defense on Aldridge, and despite the 5th foul, he never played again anyway, so might as well leave him in. He was our only positive +/- player of the game.

    Chuck played "ok"...he was -6 for the game and picked up 3 fouls in his 8 minutes, but I think he did a serviceable job. And I don't subscribe to the Yao/Hayes combo not working...typically. But in this series I do, given how Yao is being defended.

    In either case, it's pretty difficult to fault our front court play or Rick's substitutions of those players. If not for Wafer, our key PG, SG, and SF's of Brooks, Lowry, Artest and Battier were a combined 10-34 from the field. They played 54% of the minutes in the game and only scored 27 points, only grabbed 11 rebounds, had 15 assists but 8 turnovers.

    I think Shane does what he does, but you ahve to have at least one of Brooks or Lowry playing effectively, and Ron just getting in the game a little more. Even if he continues to struggle shooting, he played too many minutes and is too big to only have 4 rebounds, took too many gambles defensively (back to his problem earlier in the season), etc. With all of the teams foul issues last night, Ron somehow only had 1, while guarding the other team's best player.

    Hard to pin the loss on Rick.
     
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    Actually that's not what I said.

    I said that Adelman subscribes to that theory. Personally I think it's bogus.
     
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    Yeah Hayes could easily have Yao's back when ROY burns past Artest and also get the rebounds when Yao is out of position.

    I think Hayes/Yao/Landry/Artest/Brooks would be a good lineup.

    I don't like Scola/Yao/Hayes all on the floor though.
     
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    burnnotice deserves some type of award for his blind, mindless and incessant love for the Chuck Wagon. If there's such a thing Chuck Only Fan, this guy started the movement. I hope the Kool-Aid tastes good.
     
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    To me, Landry guarded LaMarcus better than any other Rocket that night. He forced a couple of turnovers, while getting a hand in his face for most of his jump shots. Too bad he got into foul trouble.
     
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    Hayes is used for defensive purpose, because neither Landry or Scola is capable of defending their centers(and foul trouble).

    It will be much harder for Yao to get the ball or score when Hayes is on the court because of his lack of mid-range shot.
     
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    LOCK IT UP!
     
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    You're right. Yao had a much easier time scoring in the 1rst quarter with Luis Scola...

    Or maybe you were referring to his stellar 15.6 ppg in The Playoffs this year...

    I say Spineless Weasel and you pop out of the ground?
     
  20. Grimm920

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    The reason you don't have Chuck and Yao on the court at the same time is because Chuck's defender has no reason to guard him and will just double Yao.

    Mind you they do this already and thats why Scola had a playoff high...
     
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