Shandon Anderson! Now I really didn't have a problem w/ Shandon and I was a little dissapointed when he left but does anyone really think if RJ were the SF in the Rox system he would be averaging 16ppg and be the answer to our prayes? Jason Kidd and the Nets run-and-gun offense has made him look a lot better than he actually is IMO. Yes he dropped that triple double on us but that was against Glen Rice. I think I could get to the hole on Rice. In the Rox system, he would just stand around and take 3's while in NJ Eddie would be running the floor and catching alleys from Kidd and we would all be like "why couldn't we get EG?" Eddie's "problem" is (like virtually every other player here) he is not put in the best situation to succed. He's not drawing up these plays were he stands at the 3pt line and he's not even 21 yet so he hasn't thought about getting a personal trainer or getting w/ a big man coach to further develop his game. thats were the coaching staff and the front office need to get involved. Don't give up on EG just yet and remeber the saying "grass is alway greener on the other side" and try not to fall into that trap.
Yes......I agree with your first paragraph. But Eddie doesn't care! He's high! Jefferson wouldn't be so great on the Rockets...and if he was.....then we wouldn't have gotten Yao Ming. Griffin......well he doesn't fit here. But I don't think he would be alleyoopin and dunkin all day long in New Jersey either. He doesn't fit here. He doesn't fit anywhere. I don't know...what can he do? He occasionally makes a 3 pointer. He shoots 50% at the free throw line. He does rebound...and blocks shots sometimes. There were a couple games like against Toronto and Sacramento where Francis and everyone was setting him up for easy dunks. It actually looked nice. He has some potential............... Just waiting..
Shandon Anderson is a decent comparison. Kidd makes RJ look a lot better. Unfortunately, the attitude Griffin has displayed thus far as a Rocket makes me wonder how much Kidd would have impacted him had the trade not transpired.
GATER, I totally agree. I think RJ is pretty overrated. I credit alot of his success to Kidd. However, as you also mentioned I am not sure Griffin would have flourished with Kidd the way RJ does. Griffin needs to show more desire for wanting to improve. This is a big offseason for him for sure!
I think Griffin is just a jumpshot kinda player! I heard Calvin & Bill say in a couple of games that that is were Eddie is going to make his money! He will be like Chris Webber except with better 3 pt %
You guys are kidding Richard Jefferson in only his 2nd year is already LIGHT YEARS ahead SA at his peak. Richard Jefferson would be a stud anywhere he played, because he CARES......EG, well, he is high. DD
LOL...yes. Richard Jefferson is athletic and can shoot properly and can dunk and can do anything. But he also has Jason Kidd. Griffin can't shoot properly. Griffin cannot dribble. Griffin doesn't have much coordination. But we drafted him without even having him workout......that's sad. But oh well. And he's a pothead!!!!! But oh well... Richard Jefferson will only get better...... Griffin will hopefully get better! HAYJON02. Yes. Jefferson equals poop.
The same was said about Mrion, but he's gotten better and has put up better numbers since Kidd left. Don't give Kidd all the credit,just some. People said he made McDyess better, but antonio didn't make a all star game until after Kidd left also. These
Ha... EG is just like Webber, except that he can't hit 19 ft jumpers, doesn't rebound, and can't pass or dribble. EG sucks.
Great Call DaDak!!! Have you guys actually watched the Nets??? Jefferson actually creates for himself quite a bit and the key is he is IMPROVING, Kidd has been there both years, passed to him no different this year, but Jefferson is playing much better this year, the dude really works hard on his game, he knows his outside game was lacking when he arrived in the league so he has worked damn hard to improve it (see this link for a story on his work and playing summer league just to improve his J http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2003/story?id=1550686). Plus he is damn good defensively, surely whether Eddie is playing with Kidd has nothing to do with his defensively (actually maybe is does considerign the standard Steve sets) You guys must just watch the espn highlights, if you actually watched the games, you would see his outside jumper, esp catch and shoot and off one dribble is pretty good now. Sure his 3 still needs some work, but damn the guy has improved, why not b**** about Steve for not knowing how to run a fastbreak instead of b****ing about a guy that is winning and working real hard to turn himself into a really good player. I love Richard Jefferson's game and work ethic, i wish more of the rockets had his desire and work ethic.
for you guys you can't be bothered to read the link Jefferson's jumpers shoot down Celtics -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By Joe Lago ESPN.com EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- Considering what Richard Jefferson is capable of doing on a basketball court, it's ironic that the shots delivered by Jefferson to the Boston Celtics' gut in Game 2 of their Eastern Conference semifinal series would be a couple of garden-variety jumpers. Dribble. Rise. Shoot. Swish. They were that simple. Richard Jefferson had reason to celebrate, scoring a team-high 25 points to help the Nets take a 2-0 lead. The impact of Jefferson's field goals, however non-descript, carried the devastating blow of a two-handed reverse jam -- he had a couple of those, too -- during the New Jersey Nets' game-clinching fourth-quarter run in their 104-95 victory Wednesday at Continental Airlines Arena. Shortly after the Celtics reduced a 16-point deficit to two at 82-80 and forced the sellout crowd of 19,934 to take off their jackets and return to their seats, Jefferson's 22-foot jump shot with 5:27 remaining gave the Nets breathing room at 87-82. His 11-footer 80 seconds later made it a 92-84 game as New Jersey used a 14-5 run to regain its grasp of the game and a 2-0 series lead. "Richard made some big shots. He had a great game tonight obviously," Nets coach Byron Scott said of Jefferson's team-high 25 points. "He made some big shots when we weren't playing real well, especially in that early part of the fourth quarter." "Whenever the shot comes," Jefferson explained, "you just have to knock it down." So what was so ironic about Jefferson's Js? It just so happens that building a better jumper was the focus of Jefferson's summer project at the Shaw's Pro Summer League in the Celtics' backyard at the University of Massachusetts-Boston. Second-year players normally don't volunteer for summer-league duty, especially ones ticketed for superstardom, but last July, there was Jefferson on the UMass-Boston gym running with rookies, 12th men and journeyman free agents desperate for a roster spot -- mostly to work on his jump shot. "I want to be a star," Jefferson said then. "If you're healthy and stay healthy throughout the year, then you should be in this thing." Performances like Wednesday's suggest that Jefferson is not far from reaching the All-Star stratosphere. Jefferson began the night throwing down two dunks and finished with five slams in all, including two sick reverses in the second half, en route to a 10-of-18 shooting night. Jefferson got just as much props from Scott for his defensive work on Celtics leading scorer Paul Pierce. For the second straight game, Jefferson drew Pierce as a second-half assignment, and he managed to keep Pierce relatively quiet in a third quarter that saw the Nets extend their lead from six points at halftime to 16 after three quarters. "I thought Richard did a fantastic job against Paul," Scott said. "Paul is an unbelievable basketball player. Offensively, this guy can just get it going. ... But I thought at times Richard did a real good job matching him just size-wise. At times you have to put somebody on him, and Richard is just as big and just as strong as he is." The truth is, Jefferson is still developing. But if he could raise his game this far in just one off-season, he may not have to share his next Nike commercial with Vince Carter. "He's going to be a great player in this league," Jason Kidd said. "He had a great game. He did everything tonight."
Richard Jefferson wouldn't be the best fit for the Rockets. He might or might not be better than EG. Jefferson isn't a jump shooter, and the last thing we need is another guy who can slash to the basket. We have an abundance of those. A consistent outside shooter would be much better than Jefferson. Jefferson would be more along the lines of Kenny Thomas.
Consistent! That's what we want Eddie to be a guy that can knock down an open jumper! Not miss it and then have everybody call it an Airball, a brick, the ugliest shot in rockets history!etc...
Jefferson's only in his second year. Losing him could very well go down in team history as one of the bigger Rocket mistakes.
Losing RJ and Collins will NOT go down as one of the biggest mistakes in Rox history for one simple reason. We have Yao Ming! Call me crazy but I think Yao will be better than both RJ and Collins. If we had kept them who knows how the 2001-2002 season would have gone and we could have blown our chance to get Yao. I was not trying to hate on Jefferson or Shandon for that matter w/ this thread. I'm simply saying that in the Rox system Jefferson would not florish like he does in NJ. Kidd knows how to run and their half court set actually involves picks to get guys open looks. Steve does struggle running the break (I still love him though) and we run Mobley off a screen like once a game max so RJ would just be standing around waiting to jack up a 3 and maybe loose some of his desire to improve (like Shandon did).
Richard Jefferson looks to me like a walking triple double in the making. Kidd may explain his point production and high FG%, but how do you explain the kid's rebounding and assist numbers? Any way you slice it, Jefferson for Griffin looks like a mistake. Then again, maybe if Griffin played on a team with an offensive philosposy, maybe he could justify his high pick status.
