Ric Bucher Interview--1080 the FAN

He's one of the last guys I trust with inside source.

This is the same guy who said he would give up his career if Kobe played another game for the Lakers b/c he had "inside sources."

 

Wow, he actually said that? Can you provide a link?

 

Kobe put boogies in his hair, played em'. Pulled his strings.

 

That interview had nothing to change my opinion. Just a bunch of hot air. At least Bucher had the honesty to admit he wouldn't have minded a vote and that he wasn't sure what the result would have been.

 

Decent interview, especially the part reflecting on how everyone is dogging guys for standing up for what they feel is important. Who would have imagined so many being against that in America of all places. Also good points on the potential system restrictions.

 

That's fine. But this is an opinion piece. He does not really mention sources. It is his take on it. This is without a doubt the most emphatic defense of the player's position that I've heard any media person have the guts to say.

 

"one-side" or "only-sided." Show me one media person who defends the players' position like Bucher did in this interview. This isn't one-sided...this is his opinion. The only one. No one else has the guts to talk like this against the owners.

 

I guess you haven't been reading much ESPN, CBS, Yahoo or any other sports site, because I would say at least 75% of the media has been extremely one-sided.....for the owners.

 

Whitlock is the only other one I can think of.

 

I haven't listened to this link, but I enjoyed the BS Report with Stein and Bucher (around 2 hours).

 

Nice to see someone not so easily swayed by the popular opinion, in America of all places, that the owners are right and the players are wrong.

To be honest, to support the owners communist system is the opposite of the free market American capitalist. It's more like China's capitalism, some fake capitalism but really communism at heart.

 

Maybe no one else disagrees with the owners like Bucher.

 

That's been going on plenty for the owners. Simmons, Screamin A, etc.

 

don't fool yourself. You, as many fans, are too wrapped up in this, because you lost your basketball. In owner vs employee disputes, the public ALWAYS chooses the owner when the lockout/strike inconveniences them, especially if it increases taxes. Like buses, trash pickup, police, teachers, firemen, pilots, etc. But when it is something not directly affecting your day, we side with the worker...like coal miners.

You are being shelfish. You are choosing the owners because this dispute inconviences you.

You can't fool me. You are being selfish for your own interest. And don't bother saying your stake is a healthier league, because the owners show absolutely no interest in parity in their CBA proposals, and they don't agree with each other. Parity is NOT a owner 1st requirement. only money is, and don't pretend otherwise. not to me, crash5179. I respect you too much, so respect me, too.

If you were objective, you wouldn't hate either side. You hate the players. You are being unobjective and selfish to your own interests.

 

When the Nba proposals got leaked I read them and I also viewed all of their propaganda powerpoint video on youtube.

The scenario I describe below is based on those rules.

My main beef is not even BRI split it is how anti-movement the owner proposal was.

Lets use a very possible scenario.

Lets say that Chase Budigner is our restricted free agent and some how Andre Igg. happens to be a free agent because of the Amnesty or the stretch acceptation.

The Rockets are 2 mill under the Cap and need a starting 3 guard.

Andre is ready and willing to sign a 5 mil a year deal with the rockets but guess what? We can't sign him.

One of the new rules in the proposed CBA is that a team under the cap can't use the 5 mil mle if it puts them over the cap.

Under the Old CBA that could have happened with out even blinking a eye.

So we need a starting three and we can't get Andre unless we use the Stretch acceptation to cut players to make room under the cap.

As usual Morey has nothing but high value contracts and we would have to cut multiple players at positions of need just to make the deal happen so we don't get IGGY.


Well hey at least we can match what ever offer another team throws at Chase right?

Golden state wants a player like Chase, the GM figures he will be good off the bench and that he would be a fan favorite since we comes from the area.

But the Rockets only being 2 mil under the cap say, "Look Chase the best we can give you is 1.5 mil a year even though you shoot 3's at 40% and are putting up double figures almost every game.

Golden State swoops in and offers just enough to put the rockets into the Luxury tax if they Match the offer.

So even though the Rockets want Chase now can't match because they don't want to go into luxury tax to sign him.


How jacked up is that?


I don't know about you guys but to me having our GMs hands tied by asinine rules sucks for the players and fans.


I our little Story is not over Mr. Iggy can still play at good level but no team is willing to waive multiple players to pay him the money we wants.

Don't forget his bird right are now GONE because he is a free agent with no ties to a team because he was cut.

So all he is left with is low deals that are under his value.

In comes a team from Italy which will pay 4 mil a year Tax free plus free housing.

So he takes it. Now a player who is a Nba caliber player and should be in the league playing at the highest level is not because he did not want to be forces into taking a bad deal.

That is not good for the league.

More players are going to get waived then can be signed at fair market value and the end result will be good players not in the NBA, playing over seas.

 

I hate both the owners and the players.* Am I objective then? HP, you are damn right that we are selfish to our own interests. I just don't know why you are so sympathetic of the players. Aren't they selfish too? Anyone who is able to make 5M a year and want to get 300K more and is willing to sacrifice the jobs of hundreds of other people who make 10X less than the 300K he is fighting for is selfish in my book.

I think you mentioned in another post a few days back that as a capologist you don't think the owners were doing much to make the competitive system better. I totally agree. You know I'll be really pissed if they do not reform the cap system after all this hoopla. I don't care how much money they make. They are already making a lot.

* edit: I don't actually hate all of them. I only hate the union, and the big market owners.

 

Easy, why do you say the players are sacrificing the jobs of others who depend on basketball? THIS IS NOT A STRIKE!!!

 

I actually think the players are more upset about not having the freedom to control their destiny than the actual loss of money.

It's not money, it's freedom. Don't we all want freedom to control our destiny in America? Or are we like Communist countries that dictate what individuals do with their lives? Because that's kinda what the NBA is trying to dictate to the players, on top of making them lose money.

 

The players want both freedom and security, they want it all....maybe they could do non-guaranteed contracts as a comprimise?

DD