[Reuters] CIA Holds Top Al Qaeda Suspects in Jordan

This is worth repeating...

 

Wow,

I hope they get some good info.....

DD

 

I don't have a problem with this. If it saves another 9/11 from happening, I say "insert the hot poker and twist".

 

It's sad when people are so quick to abandon humanity, American principles, and values.

 

So, FranchiseBlade, take your pick. Would you rather have another 9/11, or some terrorists being physically hurt? The stakes are high, my friend.

 

I'm liberal but I say protect America first. I can say that because I'm an American. I just don't like it when America get involved internationally under the pretense that they stand for better values, I disagree with that. America has about protecting American inerest, we do our best as the big dog in the world, but we have to be the big dog. My problem with this administration is more that it seems to not favor Americans any more, but international corporations.

 

lets just say for the sake of fun that they had someone who was mistakenly taken or was innocent. how would u feel about it then? the same?

 

Of course not. Nobody wants to see an innocent person get punished, but who can argue that KSM is not guilty? Nobody.

 

October. Surprise?

 

Nobody was as horny over Abu Ghraib as you and Jorge. Stick to the script. Gotta break some eggs and all that. You look dorky as a moderate.

 

Very questionable...really tough to argue one way or another, but I would have to say that I would be against it.

If you want to fight for the values of the civilized Western world, I don't think you can use torture, even if it is "indirect" by having it done by someone else in another country - otherwise you stoop down to the level of the bad guys and thereby you put yourself in a moral position that blurs who is good or bad in this conflict.

On the other hand, I wonder how you can even aim to prevent future terrorist attacks without getting as much information out of those people you have caught as possible.

Walking a very thin line there...

 

I think this post would have been worth being reported to a moderator (I am not doing it, though, perhaps someone else will). This coming from someone who once in a while starts threads about how he wants to make this a more civil place just exposes those threads as empty promises.

Those who aim to keep the D&D civil should not turn a blind eye when someone who is closer to their political leanings makes a post like this.

 

I would rather have another 9/11 than abandon the values and principles that made America what it has been.

It's a false choice, because it can be done without abandoning values and principles. But as soon as they are abandoned then it is a victory for terrorists.

If people truly love this country, and what it stands for, then I would say we should be ready to die for it. If we only love this country and what it stands for when it's easy, and convenient then let's torture away.

 

He gets that way late at night after he drinks. I've taken the policy of being the bigger man.

 

I have always been pro-torture when it comes to members of al Queda. If they are worthy of the death penalty, which is supported by a very large % of Americans, then why not a little torture? Interrogation saves American lives by producing information. If our experts believe that taking them to Jordan and interrogating them is the best move, then who am I to question them? After all, they spend their careers doing this, and are so much closer to the issue than all of us.

The outrage over Abu Ghraib was half real-half political. The liberals jumped all over it and pounded it home at least partially in an effort to bring negative publicity to the Administration, particularly Rumsfeld. I have ABSOLUTELY no problem putting panties on terrorists' heads or making them stand naked. To me this is inconsequential compared to the children these terrorist kill and the families they tear apart.

Khalid Sheik Mohammed has been in captivity for quite some time, and nothing pleases me more than thinking that he has had very little sleep, daily physical abuse, and constant humiliation.

Liberals a question, which do you prefer?
1) Torture of terrorists which prevents attack?
2) Attacks on Americans?

I'm with the United States on this one.

 

Trader_Jorge, here is a link for you:

http://web.amnesty.org/pages/stoptorture-actnow-eng

 

Oh, and one more. I believe this was signed by the United States as well:

http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu3/b/h_comp38.htm

Since this was signed by the United States, I am with the United States on this one.

 

Why is it better for <b>you</b> to die for this country than for one of the terrorists who assaulted this country to be <b>abused</b> to extract information in order to save you or your loved ones?