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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ElVenezolano, Dec 30, 2004.

  1. ElVenezolano

    ElVenezolano Member

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    Hey guys i have been following the rockets from Europe (Spain) through this site , and throught all the other NBA sites and sometimes through games they pass on tv here but at really awfull hours so i usually watch them the next day on tape delay!! Yes i have watched the awfull way we play but look at it this way were only 1 game behind the playoffs spot and Portland isnt getting any better...... But to the point i wanted to get accross and ask about your opinions...

    Do you guys think that what we did to JJ Jimmy Jackson, could be considered as WRONG ?? by other NBA players like we sold him out or something ? i know he gave us some good years for little money i beleive ! And now we just sell him out for DAVID WESLEY ??? whats up with that ?

    Just curiosity!
     
  2. tksense

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    Coming from another culture, Yao himself has seen enough but is continually shocked to find that "in the NBA, it is just a business"... It's not wrong. The coach and management has all the control power. The players none... .. .. Well, wait a minute, Kidd and Kobe DID sell out their coach ! But jimmy Jackson surely cant.
     
  3. ima_drummer2k

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    JJ is a good guy and I feel bad for what we did to him.

    Then I remembered that he is a professional athlete and thus a very rich man. Now, I don't feel so bad for him.

    Always good to keep things in perspective.
     
  4. MadMax

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    Hey...he's just trying to feed his family. :rolleyes:

    Come on...give me a break. It's a business. A very lucrative business. People who get paid far less have to move to keep their jobs all the time. Also to places they'd rather not move to.

    The crying over how we treated poor Jim Jackson is so utterly silly to me. You can complain that the trade wasn't a good one. But acting as if we offended humanity by trading a millionaire who plays hoops for a living to another franchise that will pay him the same millions to play hoops for a living is absolutely absurd.
     
  5. ElVenezolano

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    Yea , i see your points i reallly dont care about the feelings that Jimmy Jackson himself would have its just it looked real cold from my perspective the way i heard it he was told right before he was going to get on the team flight to milwaukee??
     
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    To those that are complaing about JJ being treated unfairly

    Would you have a problem with Mo being traded for PJ Brown?

    Sura for Hinrich?

    Howard for Chris Wilcox?
     
  7. Rocket River

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    SCREW EMPLOYEES
    No More unions

    Let business do whatever .. . . and if the employees
    don't like. . . let them eat cake

    Rocket River
     
  8. MadMax

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    they have a union, RR!!!! the union negotiated these deals with the league. do you honestly think the union wants it whwere players can't be traded? do you think players would be paid as high as they are if you could never trade the contract away??

    yeah..he's a real coal miner, RR. workin' on the chain gang. give me a break.
     
  9. Rocket River

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    it was a extremist joke really
    the thing is. . . .
    If you take the money component out
    people's perspective is different

    Folx feel... . .since they paid X amount of dollars
    it is ok to mistreat them . . .or not consider them human to
    an extent

    We feel . . it seem it come across this way . .
    that It is ok for them to be emotionless automatons
    to do and say only what the coach says

    We don't think they should have ANY opinions
    [unless parroting that player speak . . did my best. . yadda yadda yaddsa]

    I find that a bit foul

    Rocket River
     
  10. MadMax

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    RR --

    he was traded!!! people get moved in their jobs all the time. what's offensive about that?? Citgo just relocated people's lives to Houston from OK City. your family is there?? you've lived there all your life?? sorry...you want a job, you move to Houston. or find a job elsewhere. that's business. it's just the way it's done. and it rings hollow for me when i hear people shed crocodile tears for guys who play games for a very healthy income.
     
  11. MLittle577

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    Amen. Rich people are still people.
     
  12. MadMax

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    :D

    are they also adults?
     
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    Business or not, from a former players standpoint they sold him out.....
     
  14. MadMax

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    please explain how. thanks.
     
  15. ima_drummer2k

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    Life isn't easy sometimes. I'm sure JJ can forge on with the rest of his life.

    Look what's happening to those people in Asia right now. Sorry, I just don't have a lot of pity for a millionaire athlete getting "sold out" to another team that will pay him millions of dollars to play a game for a living.
     
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    Some are, some not, in JJ's case I think he is, but that's not the point.

    The point is people are acting like things are okay for a person to go through something like this because of a certain amount of money one makes, and that's just not right.
     
  17. meh

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    JJ signed a contract which gave the Rockets permission to trade him whenever they want. If JJ didn't want to run the risk of getting traded, he should've stopped playing in the NBA by not signing the contract.

    What the Rockets did to JJ might become a problem, in terms of hurting other players' morale and such. But it certainly isn't unethical by a long stretch of the imagination.

    Btw, I've never heard of no-trade clauses in the NBA. Can players ask for that, or is it not in the CBA?
     
  18. MadMax

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    i'm the one who made those comments. but this is the reality of the business. players get traded all the time in all sports. people get moved around in their jobs all the time. it's a reality of life.

    it's hard for me to shead tears for guys who make millions playing basketball. but regardless...he signed the contract..he benefitted from it...and he knew full well he may be traded. Hell, he's been traded more times than most, so he of all people should know this.
     
  19. MadMax

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    i haven't heard of it in the NBA either. i don't know if it's something negotiable or not in the NBA. i know it is in baseball...and you pay for it. essentially, that becomes part of your compensation.
     
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    I wonder what the SF and JJ trades have done to the reputation of the Rockets management, especially if they both backfire.
     

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