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Republicans have made it clear, no legislation, no laws, no governace will happen

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by mc mark, May 24, 2013.

  1. mc mark

    mc mark Member

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    It is now abundantly clear republicans have no desire to do the country's work for the next 3 years. All they will do is anything to tear down this administration and President.

    Obamacare is the law of the land

    --House Speaker John Boehner


    Republicans Ask Insurers To Hand Over Obamacare-Related Communications With HHS

    House Republicans have widened their investigation of Health and Human Services' decision to ask health care executives to help finance the implementing of Obamacare, now probing insurers for information.

    On Friday, Republicans on the Energy & Commerce Committee sent letters to 15 insurance companies and organizations asking them to submit "all documents and communications" with HHS regarding assisting in the establishment and implementation of the health care law.
     
  2. Haymitch

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    "no legislation, no laws, no governace will happen"

    My ass.

    That would be a dream come true though. I'd be happy if Obama and Congress just spent the rest of their terms on paid vacation.
     
  3. Refman

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    Let me get this straight. HHS asks insurers to help finance implementation of the law that was supposed to contain the cost curve. Congress wants to know the details of this, likely because nobody on the planet can actually determine how much all of this is going to cost. And because of this simple inquiry which essentially makes big insurance partners with the government, you make e logical quantum leap that nothing else is gong to get done for the next three and a half years?

    I fail to see the logic.
     
  4. Commodore

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    Do you not see what's happening? Sec. Sebelius is shaking down companies for money, companies she will have oversight over. She has no authority to appropriate additional funds from private companies.

    "Hey, nice insurance company you got there, would be a shame if something were to happen to it, like if I didn't approve it for my exchanges. Oh by they way, feel like giving me some money? Strictly voluntary of course."

    Obamacare was underfunded (they told us it would reduce the deficit!) and now she needs more money, and since the people won't stand for that and she can't get it democratically, she has to shake down insurance companies who have to pay up, like a protection racket. The whole country is run like Chicago now.

    This monstrosity of a law is going to collapse on its own.
     
  5. basso

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    really? do you think you're ready prove it?

    all night?
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  6. RedRedemption

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    Republicans won't just do nothing. Republicans will force everyone to do nothing. Spending cuts, tax cuts, complete destruction of our bureaucratic system... but magically they decide to preserve all those subsidies and government interference in the free market that aids corporations and capitalists.

    They are politicians. You don't become a politician without craving power.
     
  7. bobmarley

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    So one of Congress' many subcommittees is doing some oversight which it has every right to do and it doesn't obstruct the normal business of the House and now you say Republicans want nothing to be done.

    Why not pass the Keystone pipeline legislation?

    Why don't the Demos actually make a decent bill in the Senate that can pass Congress?

    You really think Demos wanted a good common sense immigration bill to pass?
    They signed its death sentence as soon as Demo special interest groups thought they can push any amendments they want because they have the votes. They know that won't pass in Congress. They don't want it to. They are playing politics too.

    You really think the Demos want to pass a sensible budget in conference? No, they want to raise the debt ceiling without a bipartisan vote.

    Don't get your panties in a bunch because the Repugs are out playing y'all.
     
  8. bobmarley

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    I think MC has finally lost it.
     
  10. mc mark

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    No, that would be the republican party.
     
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    Repugs are scum.
     
  12. mc mark

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    Yeah, you keep thinking that

    Congress Approval Remains Historically Low, Now 14%
     
  13. Space Ghost

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    Finally?
     
  14. Rashmon

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    Looks like mcmark has touched a nerve.
     
  15. Refman

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    Not really. The fact of the matter is that the House is charged with oversight of budgetary matters. In discharging this duty, they want information from the insurance companies on the request by HHS for the insurance companies to help pay for implementation of the law. This is important information, as it will help determine the overall cost of implementation. Also, the contribution will impact insurance company profits, and thus premium increases. This is a proper inquiry for the House. Yet mc mark equates this with the House doing nothing else for the next three years. There is no evidence that this is true.
     
  16. Commodore

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    some people seem to think Obama is entitled to no political opposition after winning 53% of the vote..
     
  17. Dairy Ashford

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    I think to a lesser extent Democrats tried to do this with War funding. That didn't have a Supreme Court ruling in its favor and Dubya still made sure it was "a decision for the next President." Going forward I think Congressional majorities will just have to prioritize and throw all their eggs behind one or two platform goals at genuine risk of losing their seats.
     
  18. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    some people think that 47% of the vote entitles them to oppose EVERYTHING.
     
  19. okierock

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    It does.
     
  20. CometsWin

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    You're a funny guy. In 2004, Bush won 50.7% of the vote which Cheney called a mandate. 53% is **** you, fillibuster. 50.7% is a mandate. Bush won even less a percentage of he vote in 2001 and they ramped out like they'd won 95%.

    Thanks to you, President George W. Bush won the greatest number of popular votes of any presidential candidate in history.

    This has been a consequential presidency which has revitalized our economy and reasserted a confident American role in the world. Yet in the election of 2004, we did more than campaign on a record. President Bush ran forthrightly on a clear agenda for this nation's future and the nation responded by giving him a mandate. Now we move forward to serve and to guard the country we love.

    It has been my special privilege to serve as vice president alongside this exceptional American. He's a man of deep conviction and personal kindness. His leadership is wise and firm and fearless. Those are qualities that Americans like in a president, and those are qualities we will need for the next four years. If ever a man met his moment as leader of this country, that man is George W. Bush.

    Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the president of the United States.


    http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/03/politics/campaign/03cnd-cheney-text.html?_r=0
     

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