Senate Republicans vote to kill Obama's jobs bill The plan would have included Social Security payroll tax cuts for workers and businesses and other tax relief totaling about $270 billion. There also was to be $175 billion in new spending on roads, school repairs and other infrastructure — as well as jobless aid and help to local governments to avoid layoffs of teachers, firefighters and police officers.
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please I appreciate your meager attempt at an answer but, no, fail. How about instead of two DINOs we have a few republicans show some temporary sanity and not vote in lockstep to deny the country some relief? so where is the GOP jobs bill?
Sanity is voting for another stimulus when the first one failed? GOP was elected in 2010 to prevent those types of things. <iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/iDS7Lxlc2RI#t=2m16s" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
The first one didn't fail. If you would to see failure you would have seen a huge landslide of it if not for the first stimulus bill. economists agree it helped prevent a world wide depression. It could have been and should have been better, but it saved our nation from going over the economic edge.
#1 you can't say it failed because you don't know what the conditions would be if it it hadn't been tried; one possibility would be chaos on a Great Depression scale. #2 If bailouts didn't jump start the economy, most learned observers would say it was because they were not large enough #3 the jobs bill isn't anything like TARP, apples and oranges. In fact a lot of it is a tax cutting plan right out of the Republican playbook. But, they won't hand the current administration any possibility of success because they would rather have more pain for the general public so they can use it as an election issue. If we did elect a republican in 2012, the first thing they would do is the payroll tax reduction they won't vote for now. It's partisan politics over the general welfare. It's petty and stupid because all the Democrats have to do is vilify republicans on the campaign trail saying they are the party that denies good policy, that won't help the population, in order to maintain the income of the top 1%. The sparks of populism we are seeing now are going start the bonfire of the GOP.
It didn't fail and you know it. This is why it is useless to try and have an honest discussion with you people. You refuse to acknowledge accepted facts and truth. And the GOP was elected on the promise to create jobs. Where's the bill? Where are the jobs?
It's only failure was as a GOP talking point. As per script, you guys keep repeating a falsehood until people believe it. These talking points are like zombies that want to eat the remaining brains of the populace. Party over country -- huzzah!
He's just trying to rattle and troll you guys. "Fail" why? Because it didn't get us back to 5% unemployment? Or because we'd be better off with the 20% unemployment we were heading towards? Don't argue with fools!
Some people don't think the government should be in charge of the economy. The effects of government policy are limited anyway, because the business cycle has been seen over and over again. The government can tax and it can spend and it can tell you what not to do, that is it. The taxing is bad, the spending requires taxing, and telling you what not to do (regulation) is not going to create a net increase in the economy. The best thing it can do is get out of the way. That is why there is noting about creating jobs in the Constitution, because it isn't the government's place to create jobs. If you want a good idea of what the government should be doing, read Article I Section 8 of the Constitution, in summary - run the military, the post office, the patent office, roads, interstate and foreign commerce, and protect the high seas and to tax in order to accomplish those things (also to govern DC, but that has no application to the rest of the country). Outside of that the government really shouldn't be involved.
So we can stop blaming the President for the unemployment rate and direct the blame where it should go (and where the OWS people have been saying), towards corporations that have huge profits but refuse to hire people?
Are you trying to be the new basso? Great prevention. Glad we're avoiding stimulating the economy. That stimulus bill was a bag of pork because Republicans tagged on tax breaks and other bullsh!t just so they can run for re-election and claim they tried to stop Obama, but he just wouldn't listen.
Fox News or Ron Paul? Can you make any sort of argument for your proclamations about economics and Constitutional Law?. Or is "some people believe" sufficient?
When the oversight agencies and regulators aka SEC, FDA, DoD are nothing more than a revolving door of executives/consultants/employees from the corporate interests they're suppose to oversee, something is wrong. Or do you not see it?
That's more of an indictment of the country and the system that puts those guys in charge, not so much the ideology of regulation.
The bill won't stimulate the economy, same as last time. GOP had zero input writing the stimulus bill. It was supposed to stimulate growth and lower unemployment, but growth is declining and unemployment remains high. That's an objective failure. These lines of reasoning are indicative of total intellectual collapse. "It could be worse!" , "We need more of the same!" See where those arguments get you in 2012. Republican playbook would be permanent income tax rate cuts, which are not in this bill. We've had multiple temporary payroll tax cuts, and unemployment remains high.
your whole line of argument here strange considering your political and economic philosophy. The idea that we did it before and it didn't work is odd coming from someone who wants no govt. regulation on business, low taxes for business etc. We've had that. It was horrible. It's called the robber baron period of our history. It created slum lords, monopolies, price fixing, poor quality products that were dangerous and deadly to consumers, child labor, dangerous, hazardous, and deadly working conditions, and other inhumane practices that were horrible. Yet you want to act like more of what kept us from having another depression is bad. It's just odd.
If Commodore really wanted it like it used to be... we'd tax millionairs, support unions & teachers, and buy American. So what are you waiting for?
