Here is a summary of what we have heard so far on the board in the past week: Ming sucks--should have traded the pick! Thomas sucks! Rudy should be fired! Cat and Francis are ball hogs! Mooch should pass the ball! Griffin is terrible! Notice the commong theme ..we are 2-2 and we want to trade or fire our entire team. The only reason no one has gotten on Taylor and Morris is because they have not played yet this season. EVERYONE CHILL OUT AND CONTINUE YOUR TIRADES AT THE END OF THE MONTH. STOP THE TIRADES UNTIL THIS TEAM HAS TIME TO PLAY THROUGH 10 GAMES TOGETHER. This team needs to reform and gel with significant players coming back. It is frustrating, because you want to win so badly and hate seeing a 3rd quarter like we saw on Tuesday, but we were not complaining in the 1st, 2nd and 4th quarters, now were we? -Rice needs to get his legs back without another injury -KT will get his touch back--his broken finger is on his shooting hand and is obviously making it uncomfortable to do anything with the ball -Ming will have ups and downs this year. He is a rookie guys! Kobe was a non-factor and sucked his first year, so can he -Francis will average 25/7/7, so get over it. His assist average will be in the top 10 so leave him alone -Mobley will be Mobley..... -Mooch will win a few close games with his last second shots -Rudy will not be fired this year or next -Rockets will be in the playoffs
yeah, just give this team some time. We'll be 3-7 before you know it, THEN we can get some major league complaining going on in here!
Great points you are making Mongo. Those 2 wins came from 2 of the very worst teams in the NBA. In addition, they didn't even deserve that win against Denver which is arguably the worst team in the league.
Plus they didn't even have Howard who was suspended or something. Unfortunately I agree with the pessimistic guys. But we should be able to win with our talent. I mean look at Detroit, only one really good scorer and they get it done! Come on Rudy, where is that 5-man offense???
I just said this on hoopsworld. Rockets lost badly to Indiana. They beat Denver because Denver sux. They beat Toronto because of no Vince Carter. They were about to lose by 20 to Seattle before Seattle pulled out the starters. And the then 3-0 Sonics had an easy schedule, and lost their first challenge vs. the Hornets. HOUSTON, WE NEED SOME HELP. SOMEWHERE, SOMEHOW.
Rudy drew it up on a napkin at the bar. We are sad to say that once Rudy got toasted he wrapped the napkin around his last cold brew. The bar was shut down for hours while Moochie and the gang tried to sober Rudy up to get him to draw it up again. Rumor has it that Rudy remembers nothing from that night.
Some posters are going overboard asking for Rudy to be fired...etc.. But, you have to realize that most of the criticism is about HOW THE ROCKETS PLAY, not the RECORD. I don't care if we were 4-0!!! If we won those games with ball-hogging ISOs, I would still be mad, because that type of play will not work in the long run. So, it's more about trends that never change, rather than the record of 2-2.
It's crazy, if I had just read the BBS I would have thought that the Rockets were one of the worst teams in the NBA. Then I looked at the standings last night and if the playoffs started today the Rockets would be the #5 seed West so something doesn't compute with all of the complaining. Who are under the Rockets? Right now the Kings are 3-3, the Lakers are 2-5, Phoenix is 2-3, the Clippers are 1-3 going into tonight, and the Blazer just flat out suck.
Good to see you're postive! Nothing helps a young team like fans predicting they'll be one of the worst teams in the NBA. Only 2 teams give up less points then the Rockets, the Sonics and I think Kings. Yeah, that's a team on the fast track to 3-7.
Did any one really think the team would be firing on all cylinders this early in the season? I thought that it was a foregone conclusion, that adding in the new offense, breaking in the new players and starting out the year wasn't going to be a sprint right out of the gate. I think it's good that we're 2 and 2. The other 'elite' teams like the Lakers, Portland, etc. aren't all that much better. That's good because we are treading water while we acclomate the new players and get everyone else more comfortable with the new plays. It also doesn't matter who we ended up beating. There have been years when the Rockets couldn't beat the Clippers, and have lost games to other sub par teams. Part of what makes good teams good is that they beat who they are supposed to. I'm glad that are players didn't take the games against lesser teams for granted as much as some of the Rockets fans apparently have.
No one knows what WILL happen. Everyone knows what they expect. But that's not the point. We should be better than 2-2. We're not evena GOOD 2-2. We beat cupcake teams, and we didn't even destroy them. The teams we lost to were the Sonics. Yes, the same Sonics that most of us said wouldn't make the playoffs, and the same poorly-coached, Reggie Miller-less Indiana team that has been less than inspiring in their play (until today). Even if we're not playing our best ball, we should at LEAST be 3-1. If we lose to the Wariors, then we're out of the running for anything more than 7th seed. We were supposed to take advantage of this easy early schedule. Instead, we're at .500 I don't want an inconsisten team anymore. I forgot what a winning streak feels like. Everytime we win, I expect us to lose the next game. We need to see improvement. It's been too long, and we're too GOOD to be where we are SO FAR.
wtf? are we supposed to lose to the bad teams then? what are the rockets supposed to do against denver and toronto? hmm?how more f@#king perssimistic can we be on this board? looking for reasons why wins are bad. who cares what the score was, it was a win. sac has lost to crap teams, the lakers have lost to crap teams, tell me what that means. btw, the sonics did not pull their starters, even payton played till the very last second. also a carter-less raptors ran off something like 10 in a row to sneak into the playoffs. they know how to win without him and it's not an excuse for how lethargic they played.
Just one note... My point was that we should be 0-4. We didn't deserve the two wins. Those were ugly games to bad teams. I still have not seen a whole game that was worthy of what I would call teamplay. No sync, no defense, no motion, and lots of ISOs. If the Rockets are learning a new offense, that's fine. At least play some frikin defense!
QUOTE> We should be better than 2-2. Were not even a GOOD 2-2. WHAT DO YOU EXPECT ? This is a team coming off a 28 win season, less KT. We added MoT, Rice and Yao. They havent helped yet. If they dont, we will be lucky to maintain .500...
My philosophy is to enjoy our wins. Sure if you guys want go ahead demean our teams victories then that's fine. Just remember the teams that aren't good that get beaten still count the same amount in the 'W' column as those that come from beating the elite teams. The Rockets did deserve the wins they got, because they played better ball than their opponents. That style of ball may not have beaten the Mavericks or Orlando, but they did beat Denver and Toronto. With injuries to Morris, Thomas, Mo T. out for suspension, and Yao not having had any chance to get adjusted to the NBA game at all, plus the team trying to get used to a new offense, and new players, then I think we're doing ok to be 2 - 2, no matter who the opponents were. The Lakers aren't even .500. Portland, and Utah, aren't either. Plenty of potential playoff teams are off to less than stellar starts. Let's be thankful that they are starting slow, and we able to tread water while work out the kinks in our play. Look at our teams improvements. Steve is playing better defense this year than in years past. The team, as a whole, is playing better defense, and there is more of an attempt at ball movement this year(Believe me, I'm not blind to the fact that it's not where it should be, but it is better than last year). Yes there is room for plenty more improvement in those areas, as well as others, but I don't think it's helpful to cast dispersions on our wins.
Let me give the optimists a piece of advice. If you don't want to see any pessimists ranting/bashing again, don't stir them up by starting threads about how the Rockets are doing just fine.
Here's the problem I have: I know we're coming off a 28 win season. If you expect KT to make a difference in our team this year, I feel you'll be very dissapointed. It's not that we're 2-2, or 4-0. I haven't seen any significant improvement in our team since Game 1. I'll be honest. From Game 1 to Game 2, we improved. But that's it. I can easily say that, apart from Francis and Cato, everyone on the team has been dissapointing. There's hawkins, but he's just a fill in and will be a reserve soon enough. We had Francis and Mobley, and Catp and Ming and Griffin and KT and Rice. That's enough to play better than we've played.
