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RELIGION: All Sins are Equal

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rocket River, Oct 25, 2006.

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  1. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

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    This is the one religious concept that it is hard for me to wrap my mind around.

    I cannot see Murder
    being Equal
    to . .say . . getting that Glutonous peice of Cake
    or even Shoplifting

    I definately feel there are DEGREES of WRONGNESS

    Skilling did was worse than Bobby steal Gum from the Ma and Pa Shop

    Where do you stand on this one?

    Rocket River
     
  2. rhino17

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    I agree with you. I think some sins are definately worse than others. There is no way someone would be able to convince me that murder is the same level of a sin as stealing a pck of gum
     
  3. Lil Pun

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    I don't see how all are equal. I would rather lie than kill somebody even though I am not religious at.
     
  4. nyquil82

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    Fools, don't you know that Conservative sins are forgivable, Liberal sins are not?

    That and child molesting (aka alcoholism) is more forgivable than adultery.
     
  5. rhester

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    All sins are not equal- some will be judged more severely than others.
     
  6. rhadamanthus

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    I'm shocked you wrote that rhester. Shocked.
     
  7. real_egal

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    In my opinion, all sins in front of God are equal. However, as in the mortal world, sins are not punished, unless they turn into prosecutable crimes. Those crimes will be punished differently depends on the nature of the crimes and the law.
     
  8. rhester

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    From the bible there are many examples where severity of sins is discussed one example-

    Hebrews 10:26-31 If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. 28Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? 30For we know him who said, "It is mine to avenge; I will repay,"[d] and again, "The Lord will judge his people."[e] 31It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

    The thought here is that it is far worse for a Christian to sin than the Jews who rejected the law of Moses, simply because the Christian has more understanding and truth and has received a Spirit of grace from God.

    There are other examples, where Jesus spoke of sins against children etc.

    The idea is that all sin will be judged and committing any sin makes us guilty. But there are sins that God views more severely. How that affects the actual punishment for sin is not clearly defined in the bible.
     
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    You forgot the "No - buffets and blowjobs are fun, so I shall alter my interpretation of the faith to suit my needs nicely" option.
     
  10. rhadamanthus

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    Interesting quotation. I would have thought that the whole "all have sinned and fallen short" bit would make severity obsolete - but chalk up another confusing contradiction to the bible I guess.

    If all sins damn one too everlasting torment in hell, I really don't know think it can get worse.

    Meh - literal interpretation is goofy.
     
  11. rhester

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    I have to agree with you.
    Severity is not clearly explained in the bible. Everlasting torment sounds severe enough to cover everything.

    No use me speaking where the bible doesn't.

    I can understand the confusion, but don't blame it on the bible. The bible is clear about the punishment, but doesn't elaborate about severity. That sin is viewed by God far more severly than we view sin is understandable and reasonable.

    God would and should view sin far more evil than men who commit sins view it. Don't you think?

    God who is truth, love and faithfulness by character and nature does not see lies, hate and adultery as intelligent, logical or just.

    I would say that politicians lying, people murdering, children abused all seem like moral insanity by a Holy God.
     
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    Then again, you were referencing a new testament epistle with unclear authorship and a clear desire to prevent apostasy.

    As such, it's own validity is questionable, although only slightly moreso than the rest of the bible. Literal interpretation is silly - and thus I stand by my earlier comment that too hear such from you is shocking rhester. You have shown yourself quite reasonable in the past and I am surprised that you would not find this "interpretation" suspect.
     
  13. No Worries

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    I don't believe in Sin or Satan. Next.
     
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    While I don't see them as equal, they could be from God's perspective. As I understand it, most religions define opposing God or His law as sinful. After all, HE defines good and evil.
     
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    All your sins have been forgiven so what differece does it make?
     
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    Really?
     
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    Well I often shock myself. I don't understand what you mean.
    My interpretation is not as important to me as the text itself. I would suggest you read it and draw your own interpretation.

    My own view may not be correct.
     
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    The God I hang out with would not see a starving man stealing an apple to feed his children and a man who steals the apple just because he can as the same thing.
     
  19. Rocket River

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    People aften use the
    WE HAVE ALL SINNED and therefore we cannot just another sinner
    because al sin is the same

    I don't beleive that
    the whole .. Let he without sin caste the 1st stone etc
    I probably would thrown a stone . .not because I am without sin
    but
    because some sins are worse. . you don't let a murderer off the hook
    because you had sex out of marriage once

    Rocket River
    The 1st Stone quote is the most misused quote in the bible i think
     

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