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Reggie Bush is a BUST

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by ima_drummer2k, Nov 6, 2006.

  1. ima_drummer2k

    ima_drummer2k Member

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    Since the Mario threads seem to have morphed into Bush threads, I thought I'd start this one.....and dedicate it to our good friend jgreen91, who, oddly enough, seems to have pulled another disappearing act. ;)

    Yesterday, 11 carries -5 yards, no TDs. Previous week, 5 carries 16 yards, 1 INT, no TDs.

    For the year, 81 carries, 207 yards, 2.6 ypc, 0 rushing TDs. 46 catches, 312 yards, 6.8 yards per catch (not exactly a gamebreaker), 0 receiving TDs.

    His lone TD this year is via a punt return. Other players who have punt return TDs:

    Devin Hester 2
    Antwaan Randle El
    Mewelde Moore
    Terrence Wilkins
    Dante Hall
    Pacman Jones

    I'm starting to think the Texans did the right thing on draft day. That is all.
     
  2. SwoLy-D

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    Please don't tarnish the T, A, C, forum with this bewlchiet. Belongs in the Hangout. ;)

    Oh, and BTW, REGGIE BUSH SUCKS!.
     
  3. MadMax

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    I posted this in the Mario thread...makes more sense here:

    here's a question. IF this is where reggie ends up...as a very pedestrian runner and a bit of a threat out of the backfield as a receiver....

    will that make reggie the most undeserved, overhyped athlete ever?

    seriously...the "experts" (SCOUTS INCLUDED...NOT JUST MEDIA GUYS!) were saying that Bush might be the best prospect in the past 25 years. we all remember the gayle sayers side-by-side comparisons.

    and i know it's an IF. i know reggie will improve from this. the question is how much?
     
  4. Clutch

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    WOW, did he really have that stat line yesterday? On ELEVEN CARRIES?

    Edit - sure enough ... recaps only make relatively minor mention of it at the end. That is a terrible line.
     
  5. Irfan

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    I'm with you on that one. Every week I check out his stats, and every week I am unimpressed. After yesterday's performance, I just think that he doesn't have that edge that he did in college football. Everyone is just bigger, stronger, and faster.

    Is it possible that his ankle was not 100%? Maybe. But 11 carries for -5 yards...that is a joke.
     
  6. emjohn

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    I still feel that the right thing would have been to trade down, even if they weren't getting the offers they wanted (no one was doing a Ricky Williams for Reggie).

    That said, the Mario vs Reggie argument has been silenced. All the media chatter and panning has quit. All that nonsense about Reggie Bush being 'electric' and leading the league in number of receptions is over. Holston is far and away doing more to help them win then he is. Mario's been good for a sack a game after a quiet first 3 weeks. He's not a beast yet, but he's more than solid as a starter. Reggie's little more than a decoy at this point.

    Evan
     
  7. Jebus

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    not to mention the fact that New Orleans as a team is averaging only 5 yards per game more than the Texans. (And doing it with fewer yards per carry).

    I can only wonder just how much better the Texans would be if they hadn't screwed up by passing on Reggie.

    So not only is Reggie STILL getting ridiculous amounts of credit for the Saints record this year (I saw numerous articles as late as last week talking about how the Texans were supposedly lamenting not grabbing Reggie, because the Saints were doing so much better), but the real reasons for their success (Drew Brees, for one) are being overlooked.

    Just criminal.
     
  8. Buck Turgidson

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    Just sticking to football, he'd be up there.

    Tony Mandarich was tagged as the GREATEST O-LINEMAN EVER before he left MichSt.
     
  9. ROCKET RICH NYC

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    The Saints success is because of two people - Brees and Colston! nuff Said! O yea.... and REGGIE SUCKS! :p
     
  10. MadMax

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    i remember that. mandarich defintely came to mind.
     
  11. Buck Turgidson

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    Shirtless Tony Mandarich was one of SI's poorer cover photo choices.
     
  12. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Not to mention, Brian Bosworth.
     
  13. MadMax

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    yeah, i hear ya.

    but this was reggie bush! "the greatest college prospect at any position in the past 25 years!"
     
  14. lpbman

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    Yeah running east and west against Derrick Brooks and company was a bad idea. Also, he's still hitting the line before blocking develops.

    I also think the Texans did the right thing, because Reggie is not best suited to being the every down, load hauling back that the Texans need. Too many other holes to fill. I still think he is right for the Saints.
    Reggie is struggling when it come to running the football. Period. That doesn't mean you don't want to put him in there as a coach, he's pretty good in pass protection, has great hands, and can turn nothing plays into something. The Saints aren't leading the division because of Reggie Bush, but he already does the little things. The big plays will come.

    You can squabble over Reggie Bush all you guys like, but as many have pointed out... Reggie is not the best rookie on the Saints. Marques Colston dominated the game yesterday.

    6-2
     
  15. binhie

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    Funny that the offensive rookie of the year will be coming out of NO and the defensive rookie of the year will most likely come from Houston, but neither will be Bush or Williams
     
  16. ima_drummer2k

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    The thing is, I always thought that out of all the positions in football, RB was the one position where a rookie could come in and have the quickest impact. It has a much smaller learning curve that say a QB or DE.
     
  17. Nick

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    At the very LEAST, the media/experts/ESPN owes Houston/Kubiak/McNair a little apology for flat out LAUGHING at them on draft day. The amount of ridicule I heard was off the charts... nobody was paying any attention to Mario, it was simply the fact that they passed on this super-duper prospect that may be the greatest RB of all time.

    Now, its like the Yao Ming situation all over again... nobody is saying Mario's a bust anymore... but they're still not going to say that the Texans made the right decision.

    I understand that both guys have a lot of their careers left... but Reggie Bush is going to need a whole lot more help to start putting up his college-like numbers again. He's going to need a top-notch O-line, an MVP-calibur QB (Brees is close), and a offensive coach who is more of an innovator (like Martz was for Faulk).

    Mario, on the other hand, doesn't need any help... he just needs to continue to improve each and every week, and go out there and be as ferocious as possible. Don't worry about ESPN not showing every single highlight of his like they were the greatest plays ever (like they do for Bush)... just play your game, and things will work out.
     
  18. kaleidosky

    kaleidosky Your Tweety Bird dance just cost us a run

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    Let's be sure to include the 1 fumble (which was lost) in his stats...not that 1 is so terrible. But it adds to the non-legacy ;)

    Additionally, take away his single long return, and he's averaging a pedestrian 7.25 yards per punt return (would be #25), with only 2 other returns over 20 yards. Obviously, you take away other people's long returns and they go down too.. but there are a number of guys with longs of 18, 24, 23, etc...and they're all still averaging more than "elite-returner" Reggie would be without that 1.
     
  19. Nick

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    And just think how much cap space/long-term viability they could have had had they not devoted $65 million dollars to a glorified 3rd down back (at this point).

    Its pretty clear that NO can succeed with Deuce, Colston, and Brees. I don't buy that Bush is a "great decoy" anymore, and that he's the #1 reason all these other guys are succeeding. Its just that the NFL was ready for him, and he's not going to be able to do what he did in college.
     
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  20. emjohn

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    I think the big thing is these days, that line-busting powerbacks thrive and waterbug scatbacks get eaten. Tiki had to adjust and put on muscle. So did Shaun Alexander. Warrick Dunn was MIA for a while until he added some beef. If Reggie thinks he can dance his way on the NFL field, he'll never see a 100-yd game. So far, he hasn't even seen a 70-yarder.

    Evan
     

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