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Refs completely dictated G4 outcome

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by srrm, Apr 28, 2014.

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  1. scottie brooks

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    Maybe we don't deserve to talk about championships the way we have been playing, but we deserve to at least have a shot at winning a close game.

    The refs have made a close game un-winnable for us this whole series. It's blatant and should be addressed and refs should be held accountable.
     
  2. real_egal

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    It must be my communication skills, coz I wouldn't question your reading comprehension.

    Then again, if you felt comparing those 2 fouls is ridiculous, simply because Lin was at the receiving end; or if you believe Rockets players normally don't pick their teammates up when they are down, especially when they got hit; or you felt it's perfectly fine to thank opposing team to hurt Lin because he f-ed up on crucial play, then I know where you stand.

    As a grown-up (I assume you are), no need to hide behind this "whole world" or "we".

    I am never interested in conspiracy or motives, as they are not provable. Action speaks louder than words.
     
  3. jayhow92

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    This is going to be the NBA after reviewing last game

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  4. Htownballer38

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    Man please he got tripped by Matthews, please go back and look sir. And you bring up 1 examples verse 4-5. Too funny
    Plus those crucial calls cost us the game.
     
  5. Remlap

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    That strip under the basket by LMA on Howard should have been called as out of bounds off of Aldridge or a foul on Aldridge.
    That's pretty automatic. When a defensive player 'hacks' at the ball and the offensive player loses control because if it, that's almost always due to the defender.
    Either he hacked him or knocked it out of bounds, plain and simple.
    But apparently those rules don't apply in Portland..
     
  6. Bogey

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    What about the out of bounds play on Dwight, that was a dead ball. Who makes the decision on what to review, coach, the refs?
     
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    They can protest all they want pimpn but that is not going to sway these refs who clearly have an agenda,. LOL not a hiding agenda because everybody can see that phantom calls. You are right on the money, a brother can't even enjoy these games because of the League and its officials.
     
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    The Refs are pathetic they should feel embarrassed about the way they officiated lastnight. **** them. I hope they all get fired
     
  9. magnetik

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    probably get raises once they divvy up the winnings from Vegas for stretching the series.
     
  10. eMat

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    Plenty of bad calls were called on the Blazers. At one point I started to get a feeling that this series is supposed to be evened up. The refs didn't cost us this game. The absolutely horrific parody of offense during the 4th quarter and OT did. I still can't believe how unwatchable it was. McHale should be coaching kids, not professionals. "C'mon, guys, play harder, move the ball, be aggressive, get stops! *clap* *clap* *derp*"
     
  11. napalm06

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    I think the prevailing idea is that the refs are just trying to elongate series by penalizing the favored team. I don't think they're after the Rockets specifically, I think they're just crooked tools.
     
  12. eMat

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    Could be. I think they're just mostly incompetent. I don't really blame them for it -- there is a lot of action going on at every moment. For the situation to improve the league really just has to move in a technological direction thus minimizing the influence of humans. At the very least increase the refs salaries tenfold and implement strict quality control so that you only get the very best people for the job. And certainly, this idea of ref infallibility has to be abandoned by the NBA. Acknowledging bad calls at critical stages of games is a very small step in that direction but not nearly enough.
     
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    Are you kidding me.....? he was tripped and it was cleat after the replay
     
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    To be honest, I think you all are delusional. The Rockets are playing like crap. There's no need to sabotage them, they're handling that fine alone.

    There were three really bad calls last night to me. The first half technical on Howard, completely inexplicable. Williams stepping on the line while forcing that Lin TO - big momentum swinger, but certainly hard to catch in real time unless you're in perfect position, and refs can't necessarily be blamed for poor positioning during a chaotic scramble like that. And the out of bounds call "off Howard's knee", which was terrible and I'm perplexed that they didn't even think of reviewing it; but it did not cause the Batum three like people are crediting it for. It was just a switch of possession.

    Everything else in this thread was completely justifiable.
    -Parsons flagrant: completely consistent with how they call flagrants in today's NBA, Parsons actually had his arm high first and brought it back low to grab the elbow. Not a vicious foul but in midair you can't try to unbalance a guy without going for the ball, bad things can happen. Furthermore, Portland immediately turned it over upon receiving two shots and the ball so the end result was exactly as if it had been called a shooting foul.
    -Aldridge shot defense on Harden long shot: no body contact, and hit his arm after the release. This happens all the time and you'd hate seeing it called the other way.
    -Simultaneous foul on Howard: Matthews flopped obviously but Dwight shoved him with two hands in the back. If you don't want to get flops whistled in that scenario, use better rebounding technique.

    I'm not saying the refs favored the Rockets or even that they were good, but "controlled the game" is a massive stretch and I'm sick of blaming "the powers" for the Rockets crappy play.
     
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    I will say though, I was absolutely laughing my ass off at the ridiculousness of the Portland crowd chanting "bull-s**t! bull-s**t!" at the refs during the double technical situation before they even announced a call. Speaks to their mentality about officiating, and definitely stole any credibility in their "these refs suck" chant at a different point in the game. Home fans are even worse than message boards in their groupthink blaming of refs for every ailment.
     
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    First, there is a thread to blame the fans leaving early. Second, this thread is created to blame the refs for bad calls for a lose. What else can you blame? Do you see this is a stupid team which can not play a winning basketball? I would blame a hot weather in summer, which makes more sense.
     
  17. nef2005

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    Minor nit pick here, but it wasn't consistent with Lin getting smacked across the face by LMA during game 3. He made contact with the head and not the ball. Howard got called for a T for much less while Parsons got a flagrant for a similar occurrence.

    Otherwise a solid post that is accurate.
     
  18. Deuce

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    Refs have been pretty bad and for sure inconsistent.

    Personally, I get tired of blaming officials. Yeah, they can be part of the problem but the Rockets for the most part don't have to worry about those issues if they take care of their own problems.

    If the Rockets fix the below issues, they won't have to worry about the Refs.
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  19. CDrex

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    I think in general refs overreact to contact made by Howard, both 'flagrant' and normal - so I'm with you on that double standard. I'd have to rewatch the Lin drive but my impression at the time was that it was a legitimate attempt at the ball that followed through into a face shot - Parsons clearly made a midair adjustment NOT to go for the ball at :10 here and by no means was it malicious, but in general their practice is to toss a F1 at anyone who deliberately pulls a player's upper body backwards in midair without going for the ball and this was a textbook one to me.
     
  20. IBTL

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    Umm that was pretty much the game dude. Yeah it shouldn't have come to that but that was the game.

    All of the other ridiculous calls aside they call it correctly and rockets win. period.

    You can complain or try to say this or that but that call determined the final result. That is the definition of dictating the outcome.

    No one here is liking the fact that it is coming to call (game 1 nba admitting) and yes the blazers are getting bad calls. I don't think anyone thinks that the refs aren't bad on both sides. But at end of the day that one play cost the rockets THE GAME. That is the 2nd time and rockets are down 3-1 when they should be up 3-1.

    You can say that they blew a lead or didn't play well or whatever but it still takes an incorrect call at specific moment to directly determine the game.
     

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