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Records of Europeans' phone, e-mail traffic to be kept

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  1. bigtexxx

    bigtexxx Member

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    http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/headline/world/3393042

    Oct. 12, 2005, 9:13AM

    Records of Europeans' phone, e-mail traffic to be kept
    Associated Press

    XEMBOURG — The European Union agreed today to legally require telecommunications companies to keep records of phone and e-mail traffic for up to one year as part of the bloc's anti-terrorist campaign.

    The decision by 25 EU justice ministers comes after years of European debate over the privacy and cost concerns of data retention. Officials said the ministers agreed phone companies must keep records for 12 months and Internet providers for six months.

    Britain, which holds the rotating EU presidency, has pushed for a data retention order as part of anti-terror efforts in the wake of the deadly bombings in London in July.

    Data retention laws vary from country to country within the bloc. Fifteen EU countries have no such laws. But Italy and Ireland require telecommunications data be kept for three and four years, respectively; those tougher standards will remain under Wednesday decision.
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    #1 bigtexxx, Oct 12, 2005
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    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Obviously this is Ashcroft's and Bush's fault.
     
    #2 El_Conquistador, Oct 12, 2005
  3. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    so what does that really mean? We keep phone records here, anyone ever seen Law and Order.
     
    #3 pgabriel, Oct 12, 2005
  4. wnes

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    I am for monitoring everyone, not just a selective few. You never know when someone would turn into a terrorist. If a one-fell-swoop implementation is not possible, then start from wiretapping those who are in the top tax/political brackets down.
     
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  5. wouldabeen23

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    you so crazy
     
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  6. twhy77

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    Is anybody in favor of this besides wnes?

    Crazyness.
     
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  7. pirc1

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    Every phone conversation, email, fax is recorded! Nice, I wonder how big the data warehouse need to be for keeping stuff like that and make it searchable? Pretty soon they would want to keep track of every word you ever said and then every thought you ever had! when do we get to matrix revolution? :eek:
     
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  8. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    So what's the difference, companies keep phone records here. Are they not legally required to?


    edit: the article says traffic. not actual conversations and messages. if you get in trouble here, can't the police look up who you made calls to?
     
    #8 pgabriel, Oct 12, 2005
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