Rebound Flopping

Flopping is out of control. I actually feel bad for these NBA officials. How are you supposed know if a player is flopping or not the second it happens? It's one thing to study replays and give I-told-ya-so's but to make a key decision the moment it happens?

Where is the official official appreciation thread?

 

Rebound flopping, like any fouls away from the ball, is hard to catch because the tendency of anyone watching the game, including the refs, is to follow the ball.

I think the only effective way to deal with flopping of any kind is to punish the floppers after the game by tape review. You can accumulate points on flopping toward suspension, sort of like technical fouls and flagrants.

The assumption is that the game is too fast to realistically ask the refs to make correct judgments on the spot all the time. And if they make a wrong judgment, then it's too bad, and too late to change the result. But if they can review a play and change a flagrant foul charge to a player, they can certainly do the same thing about flopping.

 

yeah, agreed.

It's good idea to have off-field penalties for flopping. Sorta like a yellow card or a red card(after certain number of flopping/cautions has been reached, being suspended for at least the next game) for misconduct on football field.

but what else would you expect from tape review after the game. Nothing can be changed on the game result, same as football.

 

If we had penalties for flopping Scola and Battier would be suspended by now.

Raja would have suspended in the first 12 games of the reg. season.


Now that a solution to flopping has come we still need a solution to the Bruce Bowen problem.

 

actually i think the problem is that refs do understand rudimentary physics, and when they see someone falling the instinct is that they are falling because someone pushed them, so they blow the whistle. refs don't have the benefit of seeing every angle of contact and they end up having to make calls based on the aftermath, which makes players want to flop more. the only way to really deal with this is what Easy mentioned, and that's post-game review and penalties, because that's the only way to seriously catch flops.

i understand that require immense resources and time but the rule could bel limited and operate by letting teams submit a max of 5 plays per game that they feel were particularly egregious examples of flopping, which the league could then review for punishment. of course something like this (or a sensible seeding regime) would make far too much sense for the nba to ever actually implement.

 

I think deke might be guilty of a little rebound flopping

 

I think they should call the games like old school. Only hard fouls should be call and these litle tiny touch calls should go away. These tiny touch fouls will only bring more flopping. If you call only on hard calls then you decrease the number of calls that you have to call so you essentialy decrease the numbers of flop calls.

 

Scola, perhaps, Battier absolutely not. He doesn't flop. He's just consistently in the right position to take charges.

 

Um check the no call battier flop at the beggining of game 1.... OBVIOUS flop

 

That will actually make things worse. If a player gets fouled and does get the call, he will exaggerate the contact the next time to make sure that the refs call it. By not calling the minor fouls, you encourage flopping. In fact, I think some rebound flopping is due to the fact that the player feels that he hasn't got the call when he was illegally pushed so many times.

 

There should be a foul if a player is caught flopping. Automatic two shots for the other team.

 

He flopped 3 times in the first quarter and didn't get a single call.

DD

 

The problem isn't that they don't call foul on flopping. The problem is they can't catch flopping in action. If they can't differentiate real foul from flopping now, do you expect them to know when to call a foul on flopping?