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Reason Why Yao won't lead this team

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by m0lson, Dec 19, 2007.

  1. m0lson

    m0lson Member

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    Its because of TMAC. Remember when Tmac was out 2 years ago when we didn't make the playoffs? Sure we didn't win much without him but Yao was vocal and demanding the ball and looking for his shots. Only when teams doubled and tripled him and he was forced to kick it out(our shooters couldn't hit ****) did we loose. I remember he put up absurd numbers the 2nd half of the season like 27 and 12 or something. I remember the half he had in Dallas where he was 27 and 11 in one half.

    Yao won't lead because he knows Tmacs fragile ego can't take it.
     
  2. Fuse

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    I don't know what the reasons are, but I know for a fact that unless Yao is clearly the best player on the team, he won't become the leader that we want him to be.

    He's completely different on the national team because he knows he's the only one that can carry that team anywhere.
     
  3. ekim

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    We don't need a leader...

    We need players that can hit OPEN shots.
     
  4. Winrockets

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    It's also partly Yao's fault, like tonight he had so many chances to score or go inside but instead he holds the ball for 5 secs waiting for the double team so he can pass to someone else. If he wanted to lead the team he should have demanded the ball and attacked the basket instead of shooting jumpers :mad: (I mean, why even pass out if no-one can make a shot?)
     
  5. northeastfan

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    On offense, can Yao explain why he stood in the post with the ball there like a 7'6" stiff until a double team came? Sometimes, he had the ball 3 or 4 seconds and he was just holding the ball. I could imagine every Rockets fan yelling, "Why don't you attack, Yao?" I could also imagine the Magic say, "Good, Yao has it and he's lost his balls again. Let's leave Rafer open so that he'll pass out to a 27% three point shooter. If Rafer misses and we get a long rebound, we'll get an easy two or three."
     
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    Yao played like crap from the first quarter to about 3 minutes left in the game. He was all over the boards however...but I think he's playing too many minutes and that takes away from his efficiency.
     
  7. m0lson

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    Problem is he needs to get into that mentality. Someone needs to tell him he is the leader, and no one will do it cuz they're afraid of Tmac.
     
  8. sun12

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    Not really. Yao's passing out of double team is still not that good. He can pass, but he doesn't pass on target for shooters to shoot comfortably. So he still has a lot to learn.

     
  9. The Brian

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    yes yao isn't nearly as aggressive as he should be, but he needs to get into scoring position.

    i think he waits for the double sometimes because he knows if he tries to attack and the help comes, he will lose the ball if he's not close enough to the basket.
     
  10. Shroopy2

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    There's no way Yao can lead Rafer's and Bonzi's jumpers into the basket. There's no way Yao can lead a third Rocket player besides him and McGrady into double figure scoring.
     
  11. northeastfan

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    That's why people call him SOFT.
     
  12. zagy

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    agree!!

    he is a good member of a team ,not a leader.He depends on his teamates too much in his mind.
     
  13. wireonfire

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    He is not consistent. And his shooting is overrated. And he often plays soft.
     
  14. el_locoteee

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    Because they was waiting for him to put the ball on the floor to double him. One time he try to make a quick move and Turkoglu close on him and when Yao move to the baseline.

    There is something call space, that you need to operate in the paint. Blame the rockets for not making shoots, Yao should have 10 assist tonight.
     
  15. zagy

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    en,i think he is too far away from scoring position
     
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    How can the whole team be afraid of T-Mac, if that is the case then trade T-Mac. I am sure T-Mac sees the writing on the wall and knows full well what is about to happen. I hope he does not have a no trade clause in his contract.
     
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    Yao needs to be aggressive and attack the basket and shoot the ball, especially when T-Mac is out of the game. Don't pass the focking ball especially Yao has the ball at low post. ATTACK! ATTACK! ATTACK!

    Yao is too passive a person. He needs to shoot the focking ball 25+ time if T-Mac is out of the Bulls game. But I bet that wont happen.
     
  18. Winrockets

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    Good points and I agree, but I still think Yao should be more agressive and not so hesitant when he gets the ball
     
  19. el_locoteee

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    Yao only have 3 T.O. today (1 offensive foul on DH :confused: ) If he is aggressive when the whole opponent defense is concentrating in making other score not name Yao. He probably Turns the ball over 9 times and opponent will get a bunch of point out of that.

    When you are Double read the defense and get the ball to the open guy. he did that Houston did not make the wide wide wide open shoot.

    Yao get double in a team like the Spurs with shooters like Ginobili, Berry, Booner, Finley, Bowen in the conner) O boy he will be winning a bunch of games and not getting double so many times.

    You have to be smart and aggressive not only aggressive ore you will hurt the team with a lot of force low percentage shoot and T.O.

    Lebron pass the rock a lot, KG, Duncan, this year Kobe have learn to trust his team mates and his team is doing pretty well.

    He was aggressive on the board (5) and got points out of that. But he cant just force shoot when other teammates are so wide open. They are PROFESSIONAL basketball players they need to be able to make open shoots (as well as some layup too). The whole team not name Yao and T-Mac are shooting horrible, now not even Luther can shoot the ball.

    If T-Mac goes down for a week that actually will help the team in the long run because that will force others to make shoots and spot hesitating when are open shoot the Dam ball.
     
  20. bronx43

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    I don't know why you people are calling him to rush his shots? That is NOT what we want. It's obviously the wiser thing to do to wait for a double team. It's smart basketball to force Orlando to double team allowing for an open man. But seeing how none of our other guys are hitting shots, this strategy seems to be useless. But as far as coaching strategy and X's and O's, you definitely want to wait for the double team instead of forcing a shot under double coverage.
     

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