Rnk Player Team GM MPG FG% FT% 3FG% Pts Rebs Asst Blk St TO FIC FIC40 RV 1 Chris Paul NOH 91 37.8 .490 .840 .360 21.4 4.1 11.5 0.07 2.63 2.4 1918.0 22.3 +557 2 Deron Williams UTA 94 37.9 .500 .800 .420 19.1 3.0 10.4 0.30 1.03 3.4 1547.0 17.4 +424 3 Steve Nash PHO 86 34.5 .500 .910 .460 16.9 3.4 10.9 0.07 0.64 3.6 1439.4 19.4 +73 4 Jason Kidd DAL 85 36.3 .390 .810 .380 10.7 7.4 9.9 0.33 1.68 3.2 1366.1 17.7 +0 5 Baron Davis GSW 82 39.0 .430 .750 .330 21.8 4.7 7.6 0.54 2.33 2.8 1303.8 16.3 +19 6 Chauncey Billups DET 87 32.2 .440 .910 .400 16.9 2.8 6.7 0.21 1.23 2.0 1197.3 17.1 +90 7 Jose Calderon TOR 87 29.9 .510 .910 .430 11.3 2.9 8.2 0.06 1.01 1.5 1165.9 17.9 +669 8 Monta Ellis GSW 81 37.9 .530 .770 .230 20.2 5.0 3.9 0.35 1.53 2.1 1092.4 14.2 +2367 9 Andre Miller PHI 88 36.9 .490 .760 .080 16.9 3.9 6.7 0.08 1.25 2.5 1091.6 13.5 +90 10 Brandon Roy POR 74 37.7 .450 .750 .340 19.1 4.7 5.8 0.20 1.07 1.8 994.4 14.2 +470 11 Tony Parker SAS 80 34.2 .500 .720 .290 19.5 3.3 6.0 0.10 0.82 2.5 969.1 14.2 +57 12 Rajon Rondo BOS 91 29.9 .480 .630 .300 10.6 4.2 5.3 0.19 1.66 1.9 926.3 13.6 +1231 13 Raymond Felton CHA 79 37.6 .410 .800 .280 14.4 3.0 7.4 0.15 1.20 2.7 841.8 11.3 +400 14 Jason Terry DAL 87 31.7 .470 .860 .380 15.5 2.5 3.3 0.22 1.03 1.1 835.0 12.1 +95 15 Maurice Williams MIL 66 36.5 .480 .860 .390 17.2 3.5 6.3 0.15 1.17 2.8 786.3 13.0 +106 16 Jameer Nelson ORL 79 29.0 .470 .810 .430 11.6 3.6 5.4 0.06 0.84 2.0 764.5 13.3 +690 17 Earl Watson SEA 78 29.1 .450 .770 .370 10.7 2.9 6.8 0.14 0.90 2.2 758.4 13.4 +165 18 Rafer Alston HOU 78 34.0 .400 .720 .360 13.2 3.4 5.3 0.23 1.31 2.1 741.8 11.2 +227 19 Leandro Barbosa PHO 87 29.5 .460 .830 .380 15.3 2.9 2.6 0.21 0.90 1.4 740.5 11.6 +159 20 Kirk Hinrich CHI 75 31.6 .420 .830 .350 11.5 3.2 6.0 0.25 1.16 2.1 691.0 11.7 +24 21 Derek Fisher LAL 92 28.1 .440 .870 .420 11.7 2.1 2.9 0.07 1.23 1.1 684.3 10.6 +216 22 Devin Harris DAL 64 31.6 .460 .820 .340 14.8 2.7 5.8 0.16 1.41 2.5 663.1 13.1 +244 23 Antonio Daniels WAS 77 30.1 .460 .780 .240 8.4 2.8 4.7 0.05 0.92 1.3 657.0 11.4 +137 24 Anthony Carter DEN 74 27.3 .450 .750 .340 7.5 2.8 5.4 0.39 1.47 1.7 641.1 12.7 +1682 25 Steve Blake POR 81 29.9 .410 .770 .410 8.5 2.4 5.1 0.05 0.68 1.4 635.3 10.5 +217 26 Kyle Lowry MEM 82 25.3 .430 .700 .260 9.7 3.0 3.6 0.26 1.12 1.6 604.3 11.6 +1126 27 Jarrett Jack POR 82 27.2 .430 .870 .340 9.9 2.9 3.8 0.01 0.74 2.2 571.0 10.2 +995 28 Beno Udrih SAC 65 32.0 .460 .850 .390 12.8 3.3 4.3 0.15 0.86 2.3 550.1 10.6 +1640 29 Jordan Farmar LAL 92 19.9 .450 .690 .360 8.5 2.1 2.6 0.05 0.87 1.3 548.4 12.0 +1212 30 T.J. Ford TOR 56 23.6 .460 .890 .270 12.1 2.2 6.2 0.00 1.05 2.0 525.1 15.9 +58 31 Mike Bibby SAC 55 33.2 .400 .750 .370 13.4 3.3 5.7 0.11 1.05 2.4 519.3 11.4 -7 32 Nate Robinson NYK 72 26.2 .420 .790 .330 12.7 3.1 2.9 0.01 0.83 1.4 509.3 10.8 +928 33 Jason Williams MIA 67 28.2 .380 .860 .350 8.8 1.9 4.6 0.07 1.24 1.4 504.3 10.7 +46 34 Juan Carlos Navarro MEM 82 25.6 .400 .850 .360 10.9 2.5 2.2 0.01 0.59 1.6 478.0 9.1 +2230 35 Brevin Knight LAC 74 22.6 .400 .870 .000 4.6 1.9 4.4 0.15 1.35 1.0 453.1 10.8 +678 36 Daniel Gibson CLE 69 29.7 .430 .800 .440 10.2 2.2 2.5 0.23 0.78 1.3 436.9 8.5 +1686 37 Sebastian Telfair MIN 60 32.2 .400 .740 .280 9.3 2.3 5.9 0.18 0.98 1.9 433.4 9.0 +376 38 Jamaal Tinsley IND 39 33.2 .380 .720 .280 11.9 3.6 8.4 0.26 1.69 3.3 414.5 12.8 +90 39 Sam Cassell LAC 67 21.6 .430 .880 .300 10.2 2.2 3.5 0.10 0.63 1.5 404.3 11.2 +5758 40 Eddie House BOS 90 17.1 .400 .920 .390 6.6 2.0 1.8 0.12 0.69 0.8 401.4 10.4 +678 41 Anthony Johnson SAC 69 22.2 .440 .810 .460 5.6 2.0 3.8 0.13 0.75 1.2 394.4 10.3 +305 42 Travis Diener IND 66 20.5 .370 .900 .320 6.9 1.7 3.8 0.06 0.53 0.8 381.1 11.2 +658 43 Jannero Pargo NOH 90 19.2 .390 .830 .350 8.2 1.7 2.4 0.08 0.67 1.1 378.6 8.8 +515 44 Charlie Bell MIL 68 23.8 .380 .800 .340 7.6 2.4 3.1 0.03 0.76 1.1 377.4 9.3 +262 45 Bobby Jackson NOH 78 19.4 .390 .770 .340 7.8 2.4 1.9 0.06 0.64 0.8 374.8 9.9 +83 46 Chris Duhon CHI 67 21.9 .390 .800 .350 5.6 1.7 3.9 0.01 0.67 1.1 373.5 10.2 +228 47 Chris Quinn MIA 60 22.3 .420 .870 .400 7.8 2.0 3.0 0.07 0.77 0.9 367.8 11.0 +1441 48 Mike Conley MEM 53 26.1 .430 .730 .330 9.4 2.6 4.2 0.04 0.83 1.7 366.4 10.6 +211 49 Luther Head HOU 78 18.2 .420 .820 .340 7.2 1.8 1.8 0.13 0.59 1.0 354.9 10.0 +836 50 Carlos Arroyo ORL 66 19.7 .450 .860 .340 6.6 1.7 3.4 0.03 0.39 1.2 347.5 10.7 +156 - FIC: The Floor Impact Counter (FIC) used here is modified by RealGM's Christopher Reina to give more value to assists and blocks, differentiate between offensive and defensive rebounds (offensive being more valuable) and slightly reduces the value of missed field goals and free throws. - FIC40: The Floor Impact Counter (FIC) adjusted over 40 minutes. - RV: The difference between a player's deserved salary based off the Floor Impact Counter (FIC) and actual salary. Interestingly enough, Rafer is ranked 18th, Bobby Jackson 45th and Luther Head is the 49th ranked player. The last number the RV value is interesting because it shows how much their worth is according to how much they are paid. Monta Ellis is an unrestricted free agent but will command a large pay increase. Which means Kelenna Azubuike is expendable. With Rafer at 18th, it means that upgrading Rafer will not be easy. Calderon and Ellis come to mind. Daniel Gibson, and Sam Cassell are relatively good values but are lower ranked than Alston and only Cassell is an unrestricted Free Agent. If we had a lot of money, I'd say go after a Calderon, Ellis or Miller but we don't and Calderon and Ellis are restricted free agents. Miller would require a trade. Chris Duhon from the Bulls is a possibility as an unrestricted free agent and so is Carols Arroyo. Navarro would be nice to get but is a restricted free agent. All I have to say is Morey has his work cut out for him. Lot of possibilties here. http://www.realgm.com/src_playerrankings.php?filter=pg
I guess by these standards, Rafer is average among starting guards? So we're not off as bad as some people think.
I've always thought watson was a good player. He's tough as nails, a good defender and has a reasonable contract.
Because he plays point guard for the Trail Blazers. They play a big line up with Roym at the 1 and Martell Webster or Sergio Rodriguez at the 2.
umm no, are you joking me? Hes 6-6 and plays SG and the PG for Blazers are Blake and Jarret Jack. And Sergio is 6-3, they wouldnt play him at SG when they have James Jones backing up roy
No they don't. Steve Blake is a starter. Roy plays the 2 and Webster plays the 3. Blake's started for 78 games and gets almost 30mpg. Jack is the primary backup and plays 27mpg. Rodriguez plays garbage time. I watch portland games, and the only reason why Roy might be considered a PG is because he sets up all the plays in the half-court. He's a very good passer. But if that's the criteria, then I guess Tmac's a PG too and Rafer shouldn't be on the list. It's just a strange entry.
I would go after ellis hard. Golden State would most likely match any offers, but he would be a great fit for the rockets offense. He's like an efficient unselfish version of allen iverson.
Its not that he actually plays in the PG position. He plays much of the PG role like Tmac does. He makes most of the plays on offense, especially when Jack is in because he's more of a scorer.
He does play the point from time to time. He slides over to the point when they go with a big lineup, just like you said.
One day you'll figure out that a lot of people on this board only watch the rox. The rox are my favorite sports team, but I try to be a student and watch everyone. I was going to correct the poster, but u beat me 2 it. Roy is not the pg, but he makes all the calls seem like.
This 'table' is giving me headaches. The last column, the RV, can't be right. According to that every point guard is underpaid which is ridiculous (is Bibby really the only one with a negative RV?). Looks like Paul and Deron are the best point guards now, just like the polls in Dish indicated.
Honestly, I probably shouldn't have spoken up on Roy in the first place. I haven't been able to watch nearly as much basketball this year and so I haven't seen much of the Trail Blazers this season. I watched maybe 20 of their games last season and I remember being impressed with his ball handling and passing, but I'm not sure that I'd be comfortable saying he's a better passer than Steve Blake. I do remember thinking he was a better passer than Jarrett Jack.
