I couldn't help but think the other day that with Yao now completely integrated as the center of our offense, the shots McGrady gets are different than they used to be. He has a lot of open mid range and long-range J's. I also couldn't help but think Ray Allen has nailed those shots throughout his career, while T-Mac has been a different kind of scorer. I think McGrady is a better player. But as the second scorer and swingman on our team, I can see that Ray Allen would be more valuable to our team than T-Mac. As for T-Mac's passing, Ray Allen is almost as good (if not as good) a passer as T-Mac. T-Mac is the better defender, post up player, slasher. Ray is the better shooter, has the better mid range J, and tends to be more vocal. T-Mac does seem to be coming around, but with the looks he gets, he should be hitting a better % and I wonder if his declining FG% is correlated with Yao's slowly yet steadily increasing role in the offense since T-Mac's arrival. Perhaps Ray Allen is a bit less talented, but MUCH MUCH better suited to our team and style of play? It also allows us the luxury of keeping him at SG, whereas T-Mac has been more effective as a SF. Battier and Bonzi seem to excel at SF more than SG. This is NOT a knee-jerk reaction. As you can see, my reasoning is that maybe the Rockets offense has evolved in a way that our star swingman needs to be more in Ray Allen's mold and less in T-mac's mold. Thoughts? Note: This is not a trade proposal. Think of Ray Allen as the perfect example of the type of player we may need at SG, more than we need T-Mac now. Think of it as a way of showing the shots T-Mac's been missing, whether it's his fault, and whether the TYPE of shots available to him right now are not his greatest strength.
Ehhhh. No. Tmac is the best playmaker and ballhandler on this team which they sorely need. It's not even close.
Oh god, please spare us all. We blow one game and sure enough the fire Van Gundy, trade T-Mac, boo hoo, whine whine whine, we're doomed threads come out. We're 8 games into the season guys
I agree. Did you see the first quarter today? Tmac is still one of the top 5 players in the league when healthy. He was putting on a show....Spurs clamped down in the second half like champions do. Tmac is going to have a great year for he Rockets.
No! As Zboy said, T-mac is a better playmaker, which the Rockets needs. Allen is a better shooter but not much better. What we need T-mac to do is be like D-Wade or MJ used to do. Drive more and take shots closer to the basket. 15 footers, instead of 20-25 footers. Below is link to MJ's videos on youtube http://www.youtube.com/results?sear...len Iverson Vince Carter Tmac Lakers Bulls MJ
umm yee and nash would suit our team much better than rafer... elton brand would be a better fit for us then chuck... lebron would be way better than battier...actually no one is better than battier
the only assets rockets should consider trading are: juwan, bonzi, lucas, and the 4.2TE it's all good if any of the above can be converted into a: earl watson, dunleavy, david lee, diener rockets don't need an overhaul just some tinkering.
Jeez, did you even read my post? This is just a way of showing what this team possibly needs and lacks. Why can't you just discuss this? I'm sick of people like you unable to constructively critisize the Rockets as a team with weaknesses and strengths. A team that may need some things more than others. I'm just sharing my viewpoint on those things, backing up my view with a few points to illustrate. If you don't like the whole idea in its entirety, stay the hell out of these threads and stop whining. The less you post, the faster the thread dies out if that's what you want. But no, you want to whine.
How can you say not by much? Ray Allen is always around 10% better from 3-pt range than T-Mac, while taking a lot more, and not having a decent post presence. I'm thinking this team may need that CONSTANT deadly 3-pt and midrange threat. We NEED someone who will bury 20-ft jumpers, as well as 15-fters. A more efficient player from distance could make all the difference for this team.
THe flaw with your argument is quite simple we do need 3 pt shooting but we dont need it from tmac we got players like battier, head, padgett, juwan and novak to consistently know down thier money shots...oh and rafer as well The reason we need tmac is because he is not a one-dimensional scorer he is a multi-facetted basketball player he got hawk like vision, rebounds, DEFENCE, and can shoot lights out when he is in form I wouldnt trade tmac for ray+lewis, our team right now is good BE Content
Ehsan I used to have the same thoughts when I used to watch Shaq and Kobe. But Tmac is still the better fit because hes younger, the better player, rebounder, defender, passer (Cant believe you even think its close) ballhandler, penetrator, the only thing Ray Allen has is that he can shoot the lights out. Sure its a great skillset to have on a team with an inside presence but its not everything. Down the stretch of games I feel much safer with the ball in tmacs hands than in Ray Allens.
I wouldn't trade a healthy TMac for Ray Allen straight up, but some of you guys are vastly underrating Mr. Allen. He is much more than a 3 point shooter.
Actually we do need Tmac to hit open shots. I am not advocating to trade Allen for Tmac because I believe Tmac's jump shot will eventually come around, but if TMac can't hit a decent percentage of open looks than every team will do what San Antonio did yesterday and that is clog the middle. Bowen was leaving Tmac to double Yao and daring the Rockets to let him beat them. But when Tmac started driving and beating them they changed their team defense to sagging in the lane daring the Rockets to beat them at the 3. In the second half they completely denied Tmac layups and begged him to shoot over them and he tried and failed miserably making only 1 out of 8 open shots. Yao also had a bad shooting night but more than anything Tmac's inability to hit an open shot cost us the game. Yes last nights game was sitting there for the taking but with Juwan Howard 0% 3point shooting and Tmac's 22% 3pt shooting SA smartly sagged off of them and clogged the lane. Only having to guard Battier and Alston behind the arc could play 3 on 1 in the middle, pretty much making the Rockets choose Tmac and JHO to beat them and the rest is history. If Tmac can't hit a 3 than it becomes essential that the 4 can hit a 3 ala Novak. So anyone who says the Rockets don't need Tmac to hit an open J doesn't have a clue. If he can't hit an open J than he shouldn't take one. And stick to passing the ball more and driving to the lane. But the real truth of the matter is with Yao being the dominant big man in the middle the Rockets could really use 3 players on the court who can hit an open jumper. This will make teams pay for what SA did to houston yesterday. And if Tmac can't be one of those players than he better do alot of other things very very well like defense, rebounds, assists and steals and forget about shooting otherwise he is hurting this team.
you miss understood me Obviously Tmac needs to hit his shots and I for one thinks that he is too good a shooter not to get out of his current slump what i was referring to is that we dont need a shooting specialist, shooting 3s is just one aspect of tmac's game, thats why its so hard guarding him because you dont really know what he is going to do all I am saying is that IF TMAC's shots aint giong in..he can do other things to help the team Ray allen on the other hand does not possess that (not to the extent of tmac)
This is by far the worst trade suggestion I have ever read. Ray Allen does only one thing better than T-Mac. T-Mac is a better rebounder, defender, ball-handler, passer, finisher, playmaker. He has better court vision, leadership, and awareness on both ends of the court. If the Sonics heard that they would be all over it signing the paperwork before lunch. They would have resurrect Johnny Cochran as their lawyer for grand larceny.
