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Rasmussen: Americans believe Condi by 2-1 over Clarke

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Apr 11, 2004.

  1. basso

    basso Member
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    Looks like most americans are able to read and think for themselves:

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Rice Testimony.htm
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    Rice: 50% Favorable 24% Unfavorable
    Clarke: 27% Favorable 42% Unfavorable

    April 8, 2004--In the wake of Condoleezza Rice's testimony before a national television audience, 50% of American voters have a favorable view of the nation's National Security Advisor. Just 24% have an unfavorable view, while 26% are not sure or do not know who she is.

    Following the Rice testimony, President Bush recorded his best two nights of polling in over a week.

    Seventy-one percent (71%) of Americans said they followed news stories of the Rice testimony somewhat or very closely.

    Among those who were following the story closely, Rice was viewed favorably by 56% and unfavorably by 28%.

    Rice's numbers are far better than those for Richard Clarke, the former Clinton and Bush official whose testimony two weeks ago kicked off a media frenzy. Following yesterday's testimony,_ Clarke is viewed favorably by just 27% of voters and unfavorably by 42%.

    An earlier survey found that half of all Americans thought Clarke made his accusations_ against President Bush to help sell books or help the Kerry campaign.

    Republicans, by a 70% to 12% margin, have a favorable opinion of Rice. Democrats are evenly divided, with 35% holding a favorable opinion and 37% an unfavorable opinion. Those not affiliated with either major party have a generally positive view of Rice--44% favorable, 26% unfavorable.

    As for Clarke, Democrats are divided--36% have a favorable opinion of him and 28% hold an unfavorable view. Sixty-five percent (65%) of Republicans have an unfavorable opinion of Clarke while just 10% have a favorable opinion. Those not affiliated with either party hold views similar to Democrats--37% favorable, 28% unfavorable.

    The national telephone survey of 500 Likely Voters was conducted by Rasmussen Reports April 8, 2004. The margin of sampling error for the survey is +/- 4.5 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. (see Methodology)
     
  2. basso

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    and in the wake of Rice's testimony, and the release of the PDB, W's numbers are up:

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Presidential_Tracking_Poll.htm

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    Bush 47% Kerry 44%

    Sunday April 11, 2004--President George W. Bush leads Senator John F. Kerry 47% to 44% in the Rasmussen Reports Presidential Tracking Poll.

    After trailing Kerry earlier in the week, Bush has gained ground each day since Condoleezza Rice testified before a national television audience on Thursday morning. Rice received good reviews from American voters after delivering her testimony.
     
  3. basso

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    and Bloomberg reports growing numbers believe Bush did everything possible to prevent 9/11:

    http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000087&sid=a2X0d6U4roHU&refer=top_world_news

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    More in U.S. Say Bush Did All Possible to Stop Sept. 11 Attacks

    April 9 (Bloomberg) -- A growing number of Americans say they believe the administration of U.S. President George W. Bush did everything that could be expected to stop the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, according to two new polls.

    A Time/CNN survey taken yesterday showed that 48 percent of Americans said they believe the Bush administration did all it could to prevent the attacks, up from 42 percent in a poll taken March 26-28. A CBS News poll, also conducted yesterday, showed 32 percent of Americans said the administration did everything possible to stop the attacks, up from 22 percent the previous week.

    The two polls follow the testimony of U.S. National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice and former Bush and Clinton administration counterterrorism adviser Richard Clarke before an independent commission investigating the terrorist attacks.

    Clarke said the administration failed to heed warnings about the threat of terrorism, while Rice testified yesterday morning that there was no ``silver bullet'' that would have stopped the Sept. 11 attacks.

    The Time/CNN poll found that 43 percent of Americans were more likely to believe Rice's testimony, while 36 percent believe Clarke's and 21 percent weren't sure which person to believe. The Time/CNN poll surveyed 1,005 adults and has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.1 percent.

    The CBS News poll, which showed that 60 percent said they believe the administration didn't do enough to stop the attacks, surveyed 471 adults and has a margin of error of plus of minus 5 percentage points.
     
  4. KingCheetah

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    Basso you continue to exhibit a clear and present desperation. Whatever you do don't even try to refute the facts presented in other quality threads (you obviously can't ;) ) just ignore them and start your own flimsy thread from whatever feeble source you can dredge up...
     
  5. Sishir Chang

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    Newsweek's Poll released April 10th puts Kerry ahead of Bush (50% to 43%) even with Nader factored in (46% to 42%) and shows that 59% of people are dissatisfied with the way this country is going as compared to 36% who are.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4709863/
     
  6. ROXRAN

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    The Newsweek poll is segmented on readers who read a magazine, some say are slighted to the left...who think more left in general than they think right. I'd put more stock in the rasmussenreport
     
  7. Woofer

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    Didn't realize we were telling the truth by polling instead of the evidence.


    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/09/opinion/polls/printable611077.shtml
    WAS BUSH ADMINISTRATION PAYING ENOUGH ATTENTION TO TERRORISM BEFORE 9/11?

    Yes
    Now
    25%
    Last week
    18%

    No
    Now
    68%
    Last week
    71%



    DID BUSH ADMINISTRATION DO ALL IT COULD TO PREVENT 9/11?

    Yes
    Now
    32%
    Last week
    22%

    No
    Now
    60%
    Last week
    69%

    WHAT THEY KNEW BEFORE 9/11: IS THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION…?

    Telling entire truth
    Now
    21%
    Last week
    24%

    Telling mostly truth, but hiding something
    Now
    66%
    Last week
    58%

    Mostly lying
    Now
    10%
    Last week
    14%
     
  8. ROXRAN

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    all we need to complete the crystal clear picture is a ZRB-old skool:

    a.) poll

    b.) poll, poll

    c.) poll, poll, poll

    d.) or poll approved before it was voted against poll...
     
  9. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Woofer,

    No one could have prevented 9-11.

    No one.

    DD
     
  10. michecon

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    With certainty.

    But with more awareness, precaution and some stroke of luck, who knows.

    Yet without the fundamental change of policies, it would happen in another time, in some other form.

    Hope that's what you mean by your terse assertion.
     
  11. plcmts17

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    was that a poll of dumb americans?
     
  12. mc mark

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    Support for Iraq conflict erodes: poll
    Sun Apr 11, 3:38 PM ET Add Politics - AFP to My Yahoo!

    WASHINGTON (AFP) - US support for the conflict in Iraq (news - web sites) is eroding, according to the latest CNN/Time survey, which found, amid a new Iraqi insurgency against US troops, that 57 percent of Americans think US military goals will fail unless a tougher stance is taken.

    Approval of US President George W. Bush (news - web sites) and his administration's handling of Iraq was down to 44 percent of Americans, according to the poll, new elements of which were released Sunday, down from 51 percent surveyed March 26-28.

    Meanwhile, Bush's overall approval rating had sunk to a record low of 49 percent since CNN/Time started polling the earliest days of the Bush presidency in 2001.

    Surveyed after insurgents backing rebel Shiite Muslim leader Moqtada al-Sadr launched their onslaught against the US-led occupation last weekend, 57 percent said more intense US military efforts were needed to combat the rebels' action.

    But some 36 percent said the recent attacks showed the United States, due to hand over power to Iraqis on June 30, is unlikely to achieve its goals in Iraq and needs to begin reducing its military efforts there.

    A majority say the United States should hand power to the Iraqis on June 30 -- a date Bush says is "fixed" -- while 38 percent think it should keep power beyond that date.

    A hefty 87 percent of those surveyed believe that creating a stable democratic government in Iraq will be either somewhat or very difficult, according to the poll.

    Just over half the respondents, or 51 percent, disapproved of the president's management of Iraq, according to the poll which was conducted April 8.

    Overall, 47 percent said they disapproved of the way Bush is handling his job as president.

    However, public perception of Bush as a strong fighter of terrorism remained robust, a majority of 55 percent backed Bush in this regard against 39 percent who disapproved.

    On the economy -- which consistently ranks amongst the public's highest concerns -- a minority of 41 percent expressed satisfation with Bush while 54 percent disapproved of his economic management of the country.

    The telephone poll canvassed 1,005 adults. The margin of error was three percent
     
  13. mc mark

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    see? Who's right?

    :)
     
  14. Jeff

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    Most polls are sketchy but Rasmussen Reports is notoriously slanted to the right. Scott Rasmussen is a well-known conservative speaker and writer and his polls ask specifically leading questions to get specific answers.

    His polls are almost always inaccurate for that reason.

    It would be like having Maureen Dowd conducting polls. I'm guessing that they would come back leaning heavily towards the left.

    Personally, I don't care about the politics of it all, but I personally cannot stand slanted polls and studies. Whenever I see a study saying eating lots of dairy is really good for you and it is sponsored by the Dairy Producers of America, it irks me. Same deal here.
     
  15. Sishir Chang

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    I'm presuming this wasn't a polll conducted of just Newsweek readers. Since this was a poll conducted over a few days I would presume that it is more thorough than a daily tracking poll.
     
  16. SamFisher

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    hey basso...

    what points of Clarke and Rice's testimony contradict each other?

    That way we can see what the people believe.

    Let me know, thx.:)

    PS, have you read Clarke's book yet?

    Or are you just crapping on its content and his credibility without having read it...?
     
  17. Uncle_Tim

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    I support you Basso.

    DaDakota,

    You are absolutely right about 9/11 and being unpreventable. As I said before, if it wasn't 9/11, it would've been 9/12 or some other time.


    All polls are slanted. The only non slanted poll is the election itself. There is no "accurate" poll at all. Until 100% of voting Americans are polled, none will ever be accurate, which is why I don't pay any attention to the filth that Newsweek vomits.

    plcmts17: Don't be gay, Sparky.
     
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    So we can just save all of the billions we're spending on national security.

    There's nothing we can do to prevent terrorist attacks.

    Nothing.
     
  19. pgabriel

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    Bush's problem with this 9-11 Commission isn't the specific memo. Its not whether he could have prevented this specific attack. It just calls into question what's supposed to be Bush's strength, he's supposed to be the president best for defense. He's increasingly looking like he isn't even good on national security issues and if you don't trust him with national security, why vote for him.
     
  20. basso

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    perhaps, but the fact that the results of his daily tracking poll for several weeks have tended to favor Kerry, including one on who would americans prefer in the war on terror where bush is down to 51%, would argue against any inherent bias in the poll.
     

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