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Rasheed Wallace

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by jopatmc, Nov 22, 2003.

  1. jopatmc

    jopatmc Member

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    Can anybody envision the Rockets pursuing Wallace as a FA after this season?

    The more I watch him this year, the more I think he may fit in well with Steve and Yao. He is willing to defer to a post player and seems to make good entry passes, along with being a solid defender and good rebounder. Obviously his offensive skills are much better than our current PF's. His biggest weakness is jacking up too many 3 pointers, but he is playing the SF for Portland this year so that may account for some of those long shots. Here he could play the 4. He can flat out can the 18 footer along with great post up skills. His other weakness is arguing with the refs. I think JVG could put a stop to that. And after all, we need a dope smoker if we lose Eddie and MoT stays clean. Just kidding.

    I think he would be a good addition to this team next year.
     
  2. wakkoman

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    rasheed = trouble
    and after all the drama this year, that's the last thing the rockets need
     
  3. SLA

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    I would love to have Rasheed Wallace on the Rockets!
    I read in the newspaper that JVG has praised Rasheed before..he likes him..because he is a star who knows how to share...and can guard 3 positions...
    But I don't think we can get him...without trading some good players on our team...
    If we can somehow get Rasheed without giving up Steve, Yao, or Mobley, that would be awesome.
    We don't have enough cap space to sign Rasheed...
     
  4. Sane

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    I agree, and so does JVG:

    Defending Rasheed

    As much as Rasheed Wallace has been a lightning rod for criticism, Rockets coach Jeff Van Gundy has long been an admirer -- a position that was reinforced when he broadcast the Blazers' playoff series against the Mavericks last season for TNT.

    "People don't give them credit as far as sharing the ball," Van Gundy said. "That stems directly from Wallace. When your best player clearly plays the right way as far as offensively sharing it, you have a good chance for everyone else to fall in line. I thought the playoff series against Dallas, they really shared it.

    "Rasheed's versatility is (Kevin) Garnett-like. He can play the four, five, three (both forward positions and center). He can guard multiple positions. That's really special."
     
  5. Sane

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    I really think that we can get Rasheed in a 3-way deal.

    Cato and Mobley would both have to go in such a deal though.

    Maybe something with the Pacers can be worked out?

    Tinsley, Harrington, Amaechi and Pollard to the Blazers

    Mobley and Cato to the Pacers

    Rasheed to the Rockets


    That would give Portland solid young players at 4 positions (Tinsley, Woods, Harrington, Randolph). Amaechi and Pollard can fill in at C to help Davis, and they have vets at other positions. The only real salary they take on is harrington, and his deal is VERY reasonable.
     
  6. TheFreak

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    "Willing to defer" = NO BALLS

    Consistently one of the most overrated players in the league.
     
  7. RocketManJosh

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    I unlike many people on this board have been pleased with Cat's performance thus far. Yes he's taken bad shots and not made some passes that he should have, but overally he's done well because of his hight shooting %.

    THAT SAID ... I would trade Cat and Cato in a heartbeat if we would be able to get Sheed out of the deal. I think he is an excellent player and under a coach like JVG he could thrive. Not to mention now is a good time to deal Cato because the buzz around the league is that he has turned it around and his value is higher. I have a feeling his value is going to start dropping soon.
     
  8. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Am I the only one here that would trade Francis for Rasheed and a pick??

    Probably so. Oh Well.


    Maybe Francis, MoT and our trade excemption for Rasheed and McInnis.
     
  9. dharocks

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    Athletically, Rasheed's the most gifted PF in the league, with KG a close second. He's one of the best post defenders in the league, and can score in the post, from the perimeter, or on the break.

    He could be a top five player in the league, but his all-world talent is limited by a CBA brain. He's too passive, not focused enough, and doesn't have the drive to be the best, like a Garnett or a Kobe. He's be the ideal second or third scoring option for any team. If he had more focus, he'd be the ideal go-to guy.

    Despite his lockerroom tantrums and indifferent attitude towards losses, I think 'Sheed would do more good than bad for the Rockets... But there's no way we could afford him.
     
  10. bigballerj

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    That's actually not a bad idea. Here's why

    Move Cat to PG
    Move JJ to SG
    Put Boki, or Agriff at SF
    Sheed at PF
    Yao at C

    Cato backs up Yao
    MoT backs up Sheed
    Boki or Agriff backs up the other
    Pike backs up JJ or Cat
    Mooch stays clained to the bench :D
     
  11. ty185

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    as much as all the others sounds fine to me, this single thought scares me to death. :)

    nay... if we are keeping Cat, at least keep him at the SG position where he is entitled to shoot...
     
  12. ragingFire

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    As long as we don't have to part with Yao and Steve, I am in.

    With our current team, it's hard to see us challenge the top 4 in the West. With Sheed, I can definitely see us go far.
     
  13. KALIKULI

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    I think he was!:rolleyes:
     
  14. Sane

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    So you're saying if we cut off Cat's balls, then we won't have to trade?
     
  15. xiki

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    The JVG comments were the strongest I can remember about a player on another team, and smelled like something brewing? to me. I don't know, but if so, is that good?

    'sheed on a trial for not much, Meech/Mooch/KC I could accept. For Cat or SF? No, thanks.
     
  16. Sane

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    xiki,

    You've got to be kidding me. You wouldn't give up Cat for Rasheed? That's the most hilarious thing I've ever heard in my life.

    That's like the Cavs saying they wouldn't give up Ricky Davis for Rasheed Wallace.

    Rasheed Wallace is one of the top 4 PF's in the league. We're in the Western conference. If, by some twisted logic, YOU assumed that Mobley has a LITTLE more skill than Wallace, Wallace's height would more than make up for that. So then why trade them? Because I'd rather have a good PF than a good SG, since we're solid at SG even without Cat.

    My God. Can you imagine, someone unwilling to give up Cat for RASHEED WALLACE. Someone who's antics would go WAY down considering how high JVG regards him.

    My God, can you imagine a Yao/Rasheed frontcourt? They can score from anywhere on the floor, including 3-pt range. They can both play the high post, both play the low post, both great passers, both great defenders.

    My God, Oh My God. You don't want to give up Cat? Please tell me you're kidding me.
     
  17. hulk

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    If you change Cato to MoTaylor, I think it is a good trade.

     
  18. reptilexcq

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    Houston should have done that this past summer. I thought i heard a trade for Rasheed that involved E. Griffin. If they can get Rasheed, they should jump for it. He and Yao is going to form the new twin towers in Texas.

    If they can give up anybody beside Yao and Steve for Rasheed, they should jump for it. NO question ask!!!
     
  19. xiki

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    OK, OK -- but not for SF! What I was thinking was not Cato AND Cat for 'sheed. Cato and Meech & Mooch, fine. I sure don't trust 'sheed enough for Cato and Cat (and I still don't trust cato all that much, either!).
     
  20. yipengzhao

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    Wow last year this trade came up and people flamed the proposer. Rasheed Wallace would definitely help this team. He's a power forward who can step out and hit the three, but also has an unstoppable post move. He'll defer the post to Yao, but take over when Yao's not in. Furthermore, his defense is underated, he has long arm and defends very well.

    The problem with Rasheed is that he cannot step up and be a first option, but on this team, he wouldn't have to be.

    He was a headcase before, but recently he doesn't even get that many technicals anymore. Practice habits a concern though, I can see how he and JVG would chafe against each other.

    Assuming he's willing to work hard. I venture to say that Rasheed Wallace would make this a champioship team.
     

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