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Rafer Alston's Orlando Magic Debut

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by bewy, Feb 20, 2009.

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  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    There is nothing wrong with being right 80% of the time, it is hard to be like me and be 96+% right.

    Friggen Langhi.....

    :D

    DD
     
  2. Republic

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    1-9 is crap yes, but I was stating that you need to look at other things. He had a fair amount of assists and a few steals. That's not too bad overall, it's certainly better than just focusing on the shooting. His team won and other guys had easier shots. That's another sign things are clicking early for them after this deal. Good luck Rafer!
     
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    first game, can forgive him.

    And, don't forget his 8 assists and 3 steals.

    I like Rafer
     
  4. Cannonball

    Cannonball Contributing Member

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    And in the offense, if he got by his man, he wouldn't take a pull up mid range jumper. He'd either try the floater or take it into the trees and get blocked. One thing I like about AB is that he will stop and pop just like Calvin used to do.
     
  5. mozart123

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    now he is being proclaimed the savior of the Magic on Yahoo Sports. :D
     
  6. Republic

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    AB and Calvin in the same sentence? Put down the Kool-Aid and back away from the keyboard. You've been at the computer too long!

    ;)
     
  7. Republic

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    So Yahoo Sports actually posted an accurate analysis? I'm speechless.
     
  8. rhino17

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    Rafer was also 1-9 from the field. A terrible shooter taking that many shots is essentially a turnover.
     
  9. Cannonball

    Cannonball Contributing Member

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    You can say that people share similar qualities without insinuating they're equals.
     
  10. A_3PO

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    People, it's going to take a few games for teams to adjust their game plans against the Magic to account for Rafer. When they do, it will be harder for the other players to score as defenses do all they can to bait Rafer into driving or shooting. The Magic offense was predicated on a PG who would shred defenses when left open. Jameer Nelson took a lot of pressure off their other scorers. Rafer has zero ability to do that.

    It's inevitable. Give it time. What's also inevitable is Orlando Magic fans blasting Rafer for not being able to hit the side of a barn with his jumper or floater as disappointing losses pile up.

    If Rafer morphs into a worthy starting PG, good for him and the Magic. Not likely.
     
  11. jajayao

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    You guys act like Rafer shoots 1/9 every game. The guy averages 38.5% for his career. An efficient guard can shoot 45%+. With a team like the Magic, he'll be lucky to take 10 shots a game. All that means is on average compared to an efficient point guard, he'll miss 1 more shot every game. I think the Magic can live with that, rather than have AJ running the point.
     
  12. The_AzN

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    Rafer shoots the following:

    75% of the time: 1-9
    15% of the time: 2-7
    7% of the time: 4-14
    3% of the time: 8-15

    The formula is simple:

    [(Rafer's Shot Attempts) - (Amount of makes + 5)] x 2 = How many points his team loses by. If the number comes out negative, they win!

    For example: Rafer shoot 10-95.

    [95 - (10+5)]2 = x
    (95 - 15)2 = x
    (80)2 = x
    x = 160

    Therefore his team loses by 160 points!
     
  13. Republic

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    Yes. These two are both male, both African-American, both play for the Rockets, and are both guards. That's where it ends. In this regard, there have been many similar to Calvin. With regard to ability, this number is quickly reduced to zero.
     
  14. Noob Cake

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    Rafer is shooting 0.370 total this season. His average shooting per game is only 0.349 (note that shooting 0-1 and 9-9 will give him a 0.900 season and .500 per game average)

    The second number shows his consistency (lack of). He has a per game shooting percentage standard deviation of 0.166.

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    Rafer is a terrible shooter and quite streaky.
     
  15. The_AzN

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    ^ So my statement was pretty accurate.
     
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    Yes indeed, for Rafer to shoot above 50%, it only happens one in five games.

    Lemme now do the same thing for Brooks.
     
  17. The_AzN

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    That is pretty bad. I mean even compared to T-mac.
     
  18. Noob Cake

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    Brooks
    Game Mean: 0.386642566
    Standard Dev: 0.180819721

    TMac
    Game Mean: 0.370474449
    Standard Dev: 0.144771364

    Yao
    Game Mean: 0.544001446
    Standard Dev: 0.165894173


    Kobe
    Game Mean: 0.47184867
    Standard Dev: 0.10343606

    LeBron
    Game Mean: 0.492153829
    Standard Dev: 0.121006172

    Brooks percentage is slightly better than Rafer and slightly better than Rafer in terms of streakyness (mainly due to his early season shooting slump).

    Lets compare our superstar TSlack vs Kobe and Lebron. True superstars shoot way better and are way more consistant.
     
  19. The_AzN

    The_AzN Rookie

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    Simple Statistics:

    When Rafer shoots at or over 50% we are:

    7-3 this season.

    When Tracy shoots at or over 50% we are:

    6-1 this season.

    When Yao shoots at or over 50% we are:

    30-8 this season.
     
  20. Cannonball

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    They're both short. They both stop and pop, something Rafer almost never did. That was my point.
     

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