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R. Adelman: It's About Time To Ponder on My Rotation Roster

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by pryuen, Nov 22, 2007.

  1. pryuen

    pryuen Member

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    I did not read about any of these from Houston Chronicle. Or did Rick Adelman mention about this in the post-game press conference or anywhere else on TV or in radio ??

    But I read this from an article from Zhang Yi of sohu.com, sent from Miami. Zhang Yi is the sports reporter/writer stationed in Houston for exclusive coverage on Yao Ming and the Rockets.

    I am not going to translate the full article but I'll just drop the main points/summary here.

    So my questions are:

    • Should Rick Adelman release Steve Francis from the dog house, and let him play more, maybe initially as the back up to Rafer Alston on position 1??
    • Who are some of the other players left out in the rotation roster, if he decides to stick to a roster of 9 players?
     
  2. doublehh03

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    adelman, it's time you should.

    this group of players are not fit for your offense b/c one: inconsistent shooting, lack of penetration outside of tmac, and 2 of these players are not threats offensively to score.

    IT'S TIME adelman. check the team's slogan for god sakes.
     
  3. poprocks

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    Long past due.

    Gotta give Brooks some burn too. Brooks with Francis would have one of the fastest and most dangerous backcourts in the NBA.
     
  4. God's Son

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    can steve make our defense better? i dont think so and our problem is letting dallas score 38 in final period so thats defense issues.

    adelman sucks, fire him and bring a real coach back in jvg. we dont have bibby or a bunch of shooters so he cant replicate that system in houston and we see the results
     
  5. Hilltopper

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    Video link of the entire Adelman press conference is posted in this thread:

    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=138220
     
  6. blastaway

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    I hope that Rick is coming to his senses and wil start a new lineup tomorrow against the Heat.

    RICK ADELMAN: READ MY LIPS! THIS IS YOUR CHAMPIONSHIP STARTING LINEUP...IF YOU ARE GOING TO GIVE ANY PLAYERS ON YOUR ROSTER TIME TO GEL TOGETHER, THIS IS THE STARTING FIVE TO DO IT WITH; THEY SHOULD ALL BE PLAYING 35 PLUS MINUTES FOR YOU BARRING FOUL TROUBLE AND/OR INJURY:

    STEVE FRANCIS
    TRACY MCGRADY
    BONZI WELLS
    LUIS SCOLA
    YAO MING

    IF AND WHEN YOU START THIS LINEUP AND PLAY ALL THOSE PLAYERS FOR 35 PLUS MINUTES, WHEN THEY GEL, AND THEY WILL; THEY WILL LEAD YOU TO AT LEAST THE WESTERN CONFERENCE FINALS, IF NOT THE FINALS AND A RING!

    RICK ADELMAN....DID YOU HEAR ME? READ MY LIPS DUDE! :rolleyes:
     
  7. James23

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    Gotta play Scola more since Hayes is too small. Let's Scola makes his mistakes now instead later in the season. In the 4th quarter, play James if he is hot and the team needs instant offense like yesterday against the Mavs. He scored 5 quick points.

    Love Adelman told Alston to give the ball to T-mac before they got to half court after the PG took an ill-advised 3's.
     
  8. durvasa

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    Funny how things change in translation.

    "We must enhance our efficiency, score more points to increase our lead at the start of second quarter and fourth quarter; but now it seemed it is precisely the start of second quarter and the fourth quarter that we got caught up and saw our lead dwindled. We must find out the reason and explain why this is so. Maybe it has something to do with my rotation roster. I think we need to do some indepth analysis on it."

    This is what he actually said:

    (asked if there was a let down after building up the lead)

    "No, not at all. If anything, I think we have to get more production, more consistency at the start of the second and fourth quarter when we substitute. We lost our momentum both times, and we have to figure out why. Maybe it's rotations, maybe its ... I dont' know what it was. But it happened both quarters."

    Adelman isn't necessarily saying that we need a new player in the rotation. He might have meant a change in substitution patterns is needed so there's a different combination in the second/fourth quarters. The starting unit played fine in this game.
     
  9. rofflesaurus

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    i dont believe adelman said such a thing. if he did i have to see it or hear it with my own ears.
     
  10. Spacemoth

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    Makes sense to me. Doesn't mean that players will be benched for good or put into the rotation after having no minutes previously. Just means that we need to shake up our line-up because what is out there obviously is not working with any semblance of chemistry. Most of this I would blame on Mike James earnestly believing that he deserves 3-4 20+ footer jump-shots at the beginning of each of the aforementioned quarters. But it also has to do with Scola's tentativeness--which he's drastically improving on with each passing game--Bonzi's tunnel-vision as soon as they give the ball to him on the baseline close to the three-point line, and the inability of anyone in that line-up to actually feed Yao the ball inside without turning it over. In the beginning of the season we seemed to do very well when we went small, taking both Yao and T-Mac out of the lineup and doing a Scola Hayes Battier Bonzi James kind of rotation. Maybe they should revisit that, since they don't have to worry about having a real point guard in that situation. Just attack the basket, keep the paint uncluttered, and crash the boards.
     
  11. northeastfan

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    I can't believe Rick is so stupid to play Head at the point. Does he have *any* brains at all? What is the team's +- when Head is at the point?
     
  12. hooroo

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    If you mean the Lenova stat used on NBA.com I don't know.

    The +/- used on Popcornmachine is based on score. Overall he's +33 and per game +3.
     
  13. Verbatim

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    Head plays point because he has pictures.

    Really, Head is a great shooter but he CANNOT handle the ball. He has no handles. He can even drive a little after a 3pt pump fake but no way he starte the offense.

    The 1st time he gets the ball to Yao without a turnover will be his 1st this season. Did anyone see him to it yet?
     
  14. AroundTheWorld

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    If you look at the press conference and see what Adelman actually said, the translation by the reporter is obviously inaccurate.
     
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    I want to see Scola play more with Yao and Francis getting some Rafer and Head's minutes. That's all the roster change I want.
     
  16. pryuen

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    It may not be the EXACT wording......

    But I think the essence of that message was there.

    Rick Adelman talked about when he made substitution at the start of 2Q and 4Q, instead of more production and consistency, the momentum was lost. He currently has not clue of what went wrong, and his initial conclusion is it maybe due to the rotation roster.....whether it is the combination of players on its current 9-men roster, or he needs to make change to the rotation rosters by getting new players into the rotation.

    I don't see it was THAT obviously inaccurate in what Zhang Yi wrote about scoring more (i.e. more production) to increase the lead (i.e. the momentum) at the start of 2Q and 4Q, but instead the team got caught up and the lead was dwindled (i.e. lost momentum).
     
  17. AroundTheWorld

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    This was not said. This is a conclusion by the journalist. At least it was not stated by Adelman.
     
  18. jason2

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    Great lineup indeed!!
     
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    At this early stage of the season, Adelman need to try all his players. That is why I strongly Adelman sits any player who is off or lack of intensity and not
    stick to fix rotation. After Allstars game, he can then stick to 8-9 man rotation
    because he will know then which rotation is suitable in different situation.
    I know only 12 players are named in any game and 2 more (actually 3 but Novak is in D league) have only will be inactive.
    Starters : Francis/James, Tmac, Yao, Bonzi/Battier, Scola/Hayes (8 players)
    Active : Rafer, Head, Mutombo
    Inactive (DNP) : AB, Snyder

    When a player is off or lack of intensity, play the active players for 10-20 min
    depending on their performance. Longer PT for those who plays well.
    When a player is off or lack of intensity for 2-3 games, he should be benched
    or put into inactive or replace by inactive players.

    For example, this few games, Bonzi is off, Snyder should be activated and Bonzi into inactive or maybe still active but Head go into inactive. Similarly,
    James was in slump for a while, AB should be activated and James into inactive. Head was playing quite poorly also, so he can go to inactive while James stay as active but reduced min. Adelman can manipulate those whol are active or inactive.

    However, this is only apply to all but Yao and TMac because they are our all star. But then, if either of them is injured, they should rest also (inactive). I believed TMac should rest against Dallas as he was in some pain and could not feel 2 of his fingers.
     

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