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Question on weight training

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by ROXRAN, Jan 15, 2013.

  1. ROXRAN

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    Back in Oct. I had hit a low, just under 6feet tall I let my weight hit 231. Then I decided I am better than this. Got an elliptical. Hit cardio hard everyday. Made it a goal to hit 10000 steps in addition even if i had to walk like a crazy person in the house with my pedometer. Actually at least an hour or sometimes more everyday. Plus ate better- kept calorie intake to 2000 or less. no more mcdonalds or calorie soda. Not that I was in bad shape being a former sports athlete, but I was turning to bad health if I didn't turn it around...now I have trimmed to a much better 205 pounds with a goal of 2 to 3 pounds a week till I get to the 175 to 190 pound range.

    I started wanting to look even better and looked into weights again, (in addition to cont. cardio) but I don't want to look muscle bound and thick. I tried a search and got multiple things, but my question is should I focus on low weight, hi rep as opposed to hi weight, low reps...thanks.
     
  2. ferrari77

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    Yes, most definitely. You're tryna get stronger with some definition while cutting down to your desired weight as opposed to bulking up.
     
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  3. droopy421

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    If you are looking to get some definition and get toned stick to high reps (12+ range). Getting stacked with muscle is actually hard to do and takes a lot of hard work and dedication. I wouldn't worry bout you getting real bulky if you start lifting weights as you would have to intake a lot more calories. If your weight loss has slowed down a bit adding a weight regiment could be the solution to breaking a plateau.
     
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  4. Nook

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    #1 If you want to be healthy and lose weight, eat a primal diet.

    #2 If you do not want to be muscle bound I suggest light weight, heavy reps 1-2 times a week. However, honestly, with a primal diet you probably do not even need to lift weights, but engage in mountain climbing, hiking, etc.

    #3 Yoga is also a great way to get a cut look, and be healthy. I would suggest taking classes. Some of the most balanced, strongest people I have seen are yogi.
     
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  5. macalu

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    don't act like a girl. you're not going to be a muscle head unless you take in 10,000 calories a day. it's simple to get the fit look. maintain your caloric intake. just do heavy lifting (enough weight to max out at most, 10 reps) with compound exercises: bench press, squat, dead lift, and pull ups. these 4 basic exercises will essentially work every muscle in your body. don't bother with isolated exercises like bicep curls and tricep extensions.
     
  6. Rodman23

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    Go for an amount of weight where you can get 10-12 reps for 3 sets, but the weight doesnt really matter as much in growing muscle mass as the nutrition like macalu said.
     
  7. RV6

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    If you want to increase the size of your muscles, then the basic idea is to force your muscles to adapt to lifting/moving larger loads.

    High reps mostly contribute to better muscle/cardio endurance. This is usually around 10-15 reps. You may still see muscle growth, but nothing too significant.

    Lower reps usually mean you're lifting heavier loads, which challenge you and eventually create muscle gains. Muscle/cardio endurance isn't the main focus here. This range is usually from 8 reps down to 1. However, most will stick to 3-8 reps for most of a workout. 1-2 reps is usually used to finish or test your strength.

    The 8-10 rep range is a little bit of both (muscle growth + endurance).

    Usually it's not the muscle alone that makes people look too bulky, but the combination of fat and muscle size. You may want to wait until your down to 175, before you lift too heavy, if you're afraid of looking too big. Meanwhile, some lifting won't hurt and will actually help you cut fat.
     
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  8. macalu

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    i think it's a perfect time for him to start lifting. he'll definitely cut fat much faster than just dieting. with lifting, he'll see his waist size continue to decrease but may not see further weight loss which isn't a bad thing at all depending on how tall he is.
     
  9. B-Bob

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    Have enjoyed a circuit type of deal this year, twice a week. I have not added much bulk at all but have a lot more tone. And moving quickly station to station makes the whole thing cardio worthy in itself. I try to do 20-30 reps in 60 seconds at each station.
     
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  10. NateNate

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    I have no real Advice, but just wanna say good luck and keep up the good work

    When i initially started lifting... i did low reps/heavy weight. I was looking to gain muscle and Bulk up but what i noticed was the fat just fell off! It helped me to lose weight more than cardio ever did...
     
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    Every person out of shape is wearing a duct tape suit on a bicycle and then sauna for an hour. Bro science at it's best.
     
  12. RV6

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    I did say lifting would help, but going too heavy may just bulk him up faster than he can cut fat out. If he's new to lifting, then he probably doesn't have a lot of muscle mass to begin with, so at 5'11 and 205, he's going to have a significant amount of body fat. If I had reason to believe he already had some decent muscle on him, then it would be easier for me to recommend heavy lifting. I would at least try to lose another 10-15 pounds though. I guess it all depends on how much more bulk would bother him, even if if only temporary.
     
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    I'd go buy p90x and do the high rep option on the lifts

    the disciplined resistance training/cardio program and diet is very good
     
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    http://www.amazon.com/Starting-Stre...=1358293320&sr=8-1&keywords=starting+strength

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  15. ROXRAN

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    Thanks. Interestingly, I noticed foods that have benefited the most has been boiled eggs and fish, especially tilapia and salmon
     
  16. Cannonball

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    I'm late to the P90X party. I'm in my third week, doing low reps for muscle growth in the strength workouts. I'm definitely losing fat and inches but the scale isn't moving because of the added muscle. That's fine by me because I'm more interested in fat loss than actual weight loss.
     
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    great! I had very nice results when I completed p90x a while back. A couple things

    1. Since you're still early in the routine, you likely haven't lost weight due to your muscles being in shock and retaining a bunch of water. This retention will dissipate in a few weeks and you'll see weight melting off

    2. The diet component is more important than the workouts. Use myfitnesspal.com to track your calories/carbs/protein.
     
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    Based on your stated goals, definitely start out with high reps (10-12). After you get acclimated to working out, decide from there.
     
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    Just an update. Weight down to 195-197 range and kept it there. Muscle tone, especially in upper body has improved. Had to buy new clothes ...but for whatever reason can't get below 195...amazing how I lost 30 pounds in two months (nov., dec.) but only 8 to 10 pounds in the months of feb. and march,...and most of the 10 pounds was in feb....honestly maybe lost one or two pounds since start of March.

    Still doing everything I did before...minor weight training, elliptical, walking everyday dedication and eating 2000 calories or less. I am going to do some mountain bike riding on dedicated trails as well this Spring season...but I honestly never realized how hard it is once I hit below 200. Getting under 200 was a mental landmark but its getting tougher to see the same fast results

    When I was 231, it was just shedding off fast with buckets of sweat during my exercise. Now in the 195 to 197 range but it seems I'm stuck. My final, complete goal was to be in the 180 to 190 pound range...I know I'll get there but the progress is so incredibly slow now on weight. ..
     
  20. blink

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    Many people dont have the work ethic/diet to be muscle bound or thick so i doubt whatever rep routine you use will matter. This hi rep/low rep crap is BS. Its about your diet and being consistent with your exercise.
     

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