If the rockets use up their MLE to sign barry and horry and another team offers the MLE for landry. can the rockets still match?
The thought of having Horry on this team makes me puke no offense to who ever reads this. To answer your question i thought they can only match up to the amount they have available, but i could be wrong.
They won't use their MLE on Horry and/or Barry. If they sign them, they will use the LLE on Barry and, probably, offer Horry a minimum contract. I think they will go for Barry and pass on Horry, though...
Not with the MLE but if they use the LLE on Barrry and their Over The Hill Senior Citizen Exception on Horry they will be okay.
Why not put it here, and get a CORRECT answer? There are only 3 ways the Rockets can sign Carl Landry this offseason: 1. 1-Year Restricted Tender Offer 2. Bi-Annual Exception (LLE) 3. Mid-Level Exception (MLE) One of these three must be used in order to sign Landry for next year. As a Non-Bird Free Agent (<2 years of consecutive service with one team), we may not exceed the SALARY CAP to sign him, unless he is willing to accept the 1-Year Restricted Tender Offer. Now, because Landry was a second round pick in the draft, he falls under the "Gilbert Arenas Provision", which limits the first year salary of the contract that other teams can offer him to the Mid-Level Exception, and gives the team the right of first refusal (matching rights). Whether Houston signs Landry to a portion of its MLE or matches an offer sheet, some or all of the MLE will be used. If the Rockets sign a free agent using their MLE prior to matching an offer sheet for Landry, and the sum of the two contracts is greater than the exception, they cannot legally match the contract, and will be forced to let Landry go. When thinking about Landry's situation, remember that the Gilbert Arenas Provision does two things: 1. Right of First Refusal (If the team can legally match) 2. Restriction on the contract another team can offer (First year salary cannot be more than the mid-level exception) That's all. It does not give the team the right to exceed the salary cap in any way.
Morey also has a 2m exception,so it's no problem to sign barry and landry with MLE ,then sign horry with the exception.There will be no trouble if morey 's boss is generous enough to pay the luxurytax.
Unfortunately, that is only a TRADE exception. It can only be used to trade for a player making that much or less. It cannot be combined with other players in a trade. And it definitely cannot be used to sign free agents. Actually, the Rockets have two (2) trade exceptions: one generated from the Bonzi Wells-Bobby Jackson deal (for ~$2.3M) and one from the Kirk Snyder-Gerald Green trade (for ~$917k). But again, those cannot be used to sign free agents, including their own players.
I just realized that you might actually be referring to the Bi-annual Exception (more commonly referred to on this BBS as the "LLE"), which will be approximately $1.9M this season. If that's what you were referring to, then you are correct. However, Morey does not want to plan on splitting the MLE between Landry and anyone else until a deal with Landry is known. Otherwise, if the Rockets committed, let's say, 1/2 of the MLE to Barry, then another team could simply sign Landry to an offer sheet for $1 more than 1/2 of the MLE, and the Rockets would not be able to match. No way Morey lets that happen.
Even if Barry doesnt sign with the rockets and Horry does,we wont be using any of the MLE on him since he says he wants to play for minimum. link
i don't believe rox is planning to spend the full MLE on landry. It doesn't make any sense to pay 3 mil for a starting pf and have a 6 mil backup pf. the big problem is rox has to scare off all other teams from giving landry an offer sheet so they have to hold the full MLE to prevent any one from being crazy. that's one of many reasons morey wants to speed up the negotiation. he wanted them to clean up the knee issue as early as the end of season so rox can formally offer a contract with a reasonable price if his knee is completely non issue. it's obvious they haven't done it yet for some reasons. on landry and his agent side, they don't want to memtion anything about knee. if i were his agent, i wouldn't mention it either. no matter whatever you say about knee, it is always a bad thing for contract negotiation. if morey had kept quiet on the issue, landry's agent would might have been able to lure some teams to make an offer. in this case, rox would be screwed.
if they sign him for 6.5 million/year...we wont' have the ability to match it whatsoever? Edit: Pls ignore this, it's answered in the the other thread already.
While I agree that the Rockets might not want to match a full MLE offer if Landry's agent can convince some team to overpay for Carl, there are other forces at work. For instance, a team could conceivably "front load" the offer sheet, meaning that Landry's first year salary would be full MLE and would actually go DOWN every year after that. Other teams have used this tactic. A few years ago, Atlanta almost signed Joe Johnson to a front-loaded offer sheet before working out a trade with Phoenix. Also, Philly is supposedly going to make a front-loaded offer to Josh Smith in the hopes that Atlanta (and its fractured ownership group) will be less likely to match. Other teams re-sign their own free agents to front-loaded deals. The Bulls did this with both Kirk Hinrich and Andres Nocioni. By doing it this way, even if Landry's contract averages out to a reasonable salary that the Rockets wouldn't mind paying, the fact that Houston had spent any portion of its MLE on another player would preclude the Rockets from being able to match. I know it's complicated, but this is what GMs have to deal with every summer.
so why is dumb morey talking to players like evans, and mason when Landry is more important to the rockets than any of those bums
I'm sorry if this is a dumb question can the Rockets or a team in a similar situation sign Brandon Bass to a part of the MLE since he has limited salary protection without Dallas being able to match it? Edit: I also saw the term used thereafter full if waived on or before 10/1/08 used for him. The bottom line of the question is can the Rockets make a bigger offer to him than them if they decide not to re-sign Landry? I'm asking this because he has been with them for only 1 year which means they don't have his Bird Rights.Dallas wants to sign Diop which will probably cost them the entire MLE.
Because he's being smart by not putting all his eggs in one basket. Who's to say Morey isn't going after Landry hard and if he still signed with someone else. Then what?
I know that,but if Dallas pays Diop the full MLE,can a part MLE offer from the Rockets be more than what Dallas could give Bass?
