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Question for Yao, is it worth it to get dunked on on helps?

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  1. jamalccc

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    When NBA 2night was talking about MVP canadates, they showed highlights for KG. I saw in the game agaist the Rockets, he spinned away from his defender Eddie Griffin, and went strong to the hoop. Yao came to help with a dunk block attemped, but only got dunked on with authority.

    Well, this reminded me that so many times in the season, the opponent teams SG and PF did this kind of thing to Yao. They beat either Mobley (Kobe, Finley...) or Griffin(KG, Amare, Duncan...), then went to the hoop strong and dramatically dunk on a helping Yao Ming. Isn't that discouraging and demoralizing for our star center to get dunked on like this? I mean, his teammate got beat of the dribble, and he is the one who is shown on SportsCenter for the dramatization.

    I am really wondering if it is worth it to help out teammates like this. Everyone understands that getting dunked on isn't something fun. Shaq rarely gets dunked on because he simply doesn't bother to help if he sees the other guy is winning on the dribble and going up strong. I wonder which is a better tradeoff for Yao. Possibility of a dunk block or a possibility for public humiliation.
     
    #1 jamalccc, Mar 16, 2003
  2. Miguel

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    Yao being aggressive and going for the block to me is shows a great deal of maturity. Many people would shy away after the first dunk or two, but he keeps at it. One day, someone (like Kobe, etc) will try it, then when they wake up from hitting the ground so hard, he'll realize never EVER to do that again. :p
     
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    This reminds me of one of Calvin Murphy's stories. :D
     
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  4. Miguel

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    :p

    You'll soon learn my brand of comedy is loosely modeled similar to Murph, my brutha! :D
     
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    i didn't see that kG dunk. but i think Yao should've blocked Kobe and Finley's dunks. Although he's helping out, he wasn't late to the spot. so it's just like he's challenged straight up. he got a peice of Kobe's dunk and Finley simply outjumped him. but more often than not, Yao successfully blocked those dunk attempts on him. i'm happy with that. so yes it's worth it. after all, it's his job to protect the basket and not allow easy dunks.
     
    #5 Jonhty, Mar 16, 2003
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    man, the Yao block on Raportor's Davis keep coming back at me, to see a block like that is wroth more than 10 times of got dunked on. :D
     
    #6 coolpet, Mar 16, 2003
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    As quick as ESPN is to glorify Yao when he does something good, they're just as quick to humiliate him whenever anyone accomplishes anything on him.


    Whenever I'm playing basketball I contest every shot.. no matter how hopeless it may seem.. sure I get scored on a lot.. but hustle leads to victories :cool: same with Yao
     
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  8. Miguel

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    Exactly. I'd rather him hustle on every play, and get dunked on a few times, than allow some dunks that could possibly be blocked.
     
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    Yeah, I care more about Yao's feelings after being dunked on than the possibility of him blocking or contesting a dunk. :rolleyes:
     
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    Finley is the only guy who dunked on Yao straight up. Other facials (Stodoumire, Kobe, etc), he was helping out and wasn't in position. If Yao can't block the shot, he should hurt them good if they try to show him up. Like poke em in the eye or something.... that will keep them coming back.
     
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    If you look at the Kobe "facial" you'll notice that Yao came from a really bad angle.. trying to help out on the opposite side of the baseline (perhaps the hardest spot to switch to).. yet Yao STILL got a piece of the ball.. tremendous hustle, if Yao had been an inch closer to Kobe when he started his drive that ball would have ended up in the first row :cool: .. and then what did Yao do next time down the court? Dunk it, of course :cool:
     
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  12. ChenZhen

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    Its a man's game. Suck it up and challenge the shot everytime. That's what I love about Hakeem's game. Only wussy Jazz fans would think like this.
     
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    I really don't think Yao cares if he gets dunked on or not. So why not try to prevent two points? Now, if Yao was always challenging and getting in foul trouble because of it, it'd be a different story. But so far, that is not the case. Even the greatest of players get dunked on. We remember MJ on Ewing and KJ on Hakeem but I don't think that ever took away from their aggressiveness.
     
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    Ahh, but I love that block he had on him, Dream came out of no where....KJ fell flat on his ass...:p
     
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    HAHA...you just saw that from the "Beyond the Glory" special! Did you catch the look on Hakeem's face? It was like "I didn't mean for him to fall on his ass!"
     
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    lmao.. that one play defined olajuwon's career.

    he gave everything he had, went above and beyond, was able to do the impossible, made his opponents look silly.. and at the end of the day, he still had more humility than anyone in the NBA
     
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    Yao got too much pride in him to backdown. He is the guardian of our rim, the last line of defense. I am always cheering at his every block attempt. Right now he still need to improve his timing of jumping and figuring out where opponents like to dunk the ball. But once he becomes better at it, I say its game over for opponent's interior offense.
     
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  18. Miguel

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    Haha, yeah, I just saw that, but whenever I think of Kevin Johnson, I think of Dream blocking him.

    Same with John Starks...:D
     
    #18 Miguel, Mar 16, 2003
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    One day Yao Ming will know just how to position himselp to avoid these dunks. Yao Ming moves over to help his forwards but they never move over to help him.
     
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    You have just listed everything that's WRONG with the NBA.

    If Shaq doesn't help when his teammates blow a defensive asignment, then trust me, they're losing BECAUSE of it. Come on. Samaki Walker and Rick Fox?

    Help defense is VERY VERY important, and if he is dunked on, and they show it on sportscenter, then there is 2 more times where he gets the block and the team wins because of it.

    The team is like 19-4 when Yao blocks 3 or more. Doesn't that say anything?
     
    #20 Sane, Mar 16, 2003
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