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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Bag0b0y, Oct 31, 2006.

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  1. Bag0b0y

    Bag0b0y Member

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    My wife and I are thinking about moving into a house of our own soon and was wondering if anyone could give us advice. We had a set amount we want to spend on a house but was debating on if we should get a new house or an old house.

    If we buy a new house it would more than likely nearly max our budget thus giving little room to spend on furniture, renovations, etc. If we buy a second hand house it would be relativly lower and we would have more money to HGTV it to death. I'm sure some of yall own homes and could give some advice. thanks! :cool:
     
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    Get a realtor, sit down with them, make them do the homework. ;)
     
  3. Ottomaton

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    #1 most important thing:

    Before you buy the house figure out what you will be paying in terms of utilities and (most importantly) property taxes per month. If I had done this before I bought, I would have gotten something much smaller, and I've heard many other people who've said basically the same thing.
     
  4. BigSherv

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    Buy the old house and decorate well.
     
  5. professorjay

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    Good point. And in the rare instance you live in some 'high risk' areas you may also want to consider the cost of home insurance. In south Florida I know some people who are paying $5k/yr on insurance alone.

    I'm eager to see what other tips people have as my gf is in the shopping process too.
     
  6. BmwM3

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    I'm a Realtor, Email me at brianvn13@yahoo.com and we can talk in private if you'd like.
     
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    if you plan on buying an older home, be prepared for higher electric bills as the insulation and energy efficiency of the home will be lacking....
    personally if i was buying a used home, i would make sure it was built within the last 2-3 years....
    otherwise you might as well purchase a new home because the low electric bill alone will make up for the higher monthly payment, and may come out to the same overall costs as if you were buying an older home. Then you would be able to take advantage of the builders warranty! :)
     
  8. BmwM3

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    Oh and to kind of give you advice. It would depend on your set limit, the area or neighborhood you'd like to move to, so you could find out the tax rate, HOA, Insurances, and other utilities. There are mortgages out there that you can get that would pay for your furniture as well. There's so many option for you guys to choose. But location would be a helpful start, to get you started in finding a new home.
     
  9. Rip Van Rocket

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    Utility bills can really be high in older homes. My home is three years old and my electricity bill topped out at about two hundred and eighty dollars per month this past summer. My brother has a home of almost the same size(about 2500 sq ft) that is about twenty years old, and his bill was well over five hundred dollars. I would be concerned about any home older than ten years.
     
  10. Yonkers

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    Yeah, I wouldn't go for anything over 10 years. My mom's 1978 house is 2200 sq ft and her bill was $500 too. Mine is 1998 and 2700 sq ft and maxed out around $300 or so.
    I would leave room in your budget for about 10-15% of the house for furniture. I'd rather be in a smaller house that is well decorated.
    Taxes are usually 3.2% or so but in older neighborhoods there are usually no MUD taxes anymore (assuming you're not in the city), so the taxes are 2.6% or so.
    If you move into a house before the end of the year you can claim Homestead for the next year. That cuts out $15k from your school taxes, which can come out to about $500.
     
  11. ima_drummer2k

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    Email codell and get in touch with his wife. She's the best.


    That sounded really bad, but you know what I mean.
     
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    Right. Just bought a house in Windfern I when my first water bill arrived, just realized that I'd be paying more for my water than my power bill. Aqua Texas is monopolizing water supply and they're charging 70 bucks extra for their freakin facilities. :mad:

    Watch out for this tricks..
     
  13. Xerobull

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    If you're considering a suburb-type area that is still seeing growth (like Pearland), don't go into buying a new or used house with the idea that you will make money in a few years off of a sale. You will be competing with the builder who can offer new homes for a similar price and other homeowners who are trying to just get out.
     
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    If you are going to do this Buy a house that is almost brand new. One that someone bought from the builder, put blinds in, ceiling fans, paint, landscaped, etc. Then is selling 6 mos ~ 1 year later because of various reasons (too expensive, job relocation, divorce etc). That way you get the new house without the initial cost.

    The competing with the builder is also a factor but if you plan on staying ~ 5years it shouldn't matter depending where you are
     
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    (713) 789-7281 - call Delia at Almost Home Properties (between Richmond and 59S on Chimney Rock). She helped ME and my wife find a great CUL-DE-SAC home after we called for another house she had already sold... she even explained EVERYTHING there is to know about buying a house. We were rookie home buyers... and now we know so EFFIN' much... just 'cuz she sat down to explain to us what most realtors wouldn't. We tried OTHERS, but went with her because she had the patience of a... a... heck, I don't know like who... but damn, it was a lot of patience.

    She helped us for about 3 months... and didn't EVER complain.
     
  16. rhester

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    Just a note, the market is getting really slow and there are alot of people willing to lower the price to sell...

    It is a buyer's market... good timing for you and loan rates are still somewhat reasonable.

    Should be able to negotiate a good price either way.
     
  17. Dubious

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    New house, planned development

    They are better insulated, with higher efficiency appliances, with better floorplans, already wired for hi tech, will have better covenants and restrictions, better engineered drainge and newer schools.


    But it really depends on where you want/need to live for your jobs. Commuting is costly and time consuming.
     
  18. rockHEAD

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    Before buying a house, drive around the neighborhood at differents times of the day and on the weekends. Check out the neighbors. You may find out you have neighbors that like to make noise at different times of the day. Also check out the neighbors behind your house, ya never know...
     
  19. A-Train

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    Get the roof inspected seperately by a roofer, not the general inspector.
     
  20. gifford1967

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    Just make sure you don't move into this guy's neighborhood-

    Apparently this is only available in the Google cache now
    http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache...d+neighbor+fish+tank&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=5

    The original web page had great photos.


    "Redneck Neighbor"

    Page last edited on April 11, 2002


    In case you're wondering, this Web page is about my next-door neighbors. Since my neighbors have been driving me crazy and no amount of civilized reasoning and/or negotiations have worked - I have decided to dedicate a small corner of cyber-space to them.

    My family and friends are constantly asking me to tell them the "latest" thing my neighbor has done so this page will save me from repeating myself. Besides, I thought it would be fun. Everything you read here is entirely true, that's what makes it so funny. Enjoy!

    Background:

    My neighbors moved into the house next to ours in October 1997. It’s a brand new neighborhood with new houses. Everyone’s house looks beautiful but that’s about to change. The new neighbors seem like normal people until shortly after they move in (more later).

    First, let me say that my redneck neighbor is not destitute or under-privileged. The guy owns a business, drives VERY nice new cars, he just doesn’t care about his house. In order to protect the ignorant, we’ll call him John Doe # 8 or JD8 for short.

    October 1997 - They are here!

    Well, it should have been a sign of things to come but my neighbors move into their brand new house. Inventory: 1 artificial Christmas tree, clothes, stereo system, TV, no furniture). The Christmas tree is nicely decorated (remember, it's October). We can tell what the tree looks like because the windows have no miniblinds so at night, you can see right into the house as you drive up. They have also decided to wrap some strands of Christmas lights around their front porch railing. I guess there's no electric outlet nearby because they never turn these lights on.

    October 1997 - 1st Home beautification project

    It's dark outside, I'm standing in front of my house and my neighbor does the following: He gets in his car, drives it up to the house on the other side of my house (this house is still being built). He backs his car up to the construction site and opens the trunk. He calmly proceeds to load up the trunk with bricks and 2x4s. Pretty clever, huh?

    The following night, at around 9:00pm he decides it's time to build a mailbox post. It's very nice. He used the stolen 2x4s from the previous night. It looks like it's made out of 2x4s except he didn't steal any that were long enough so he nails a couple of them together to get the correct height - I mean, it has to look just right! The mailbox post is not very sturdy so he braces it with an additional 2x4 (at an angle). Click here to see the mailbox (no bracing 2x4 though).

    He uses the bricks as edging for his flower beds. They look nice. Especially with the newly planted bamboo trees and the ten gallon fish tank (no fish, just water).

    November 1997 - The fence!

    I wake up to my wife telling me, "Hey, it looks like JD8 is working on a fence". Well I don't think much of it until she tells me that he's trying to build a fence around the entire house (front and back) and that the fence is going to be chain-link. We have some "covenant rules" that prohibit you from putting up a silver chain-link fence. Also, you cannot have any fence go past the back of your house. By now, I am freaking out. I can see the property value falling faster than his mailbox post.

    Anyway, I get to work and at 9:01AM I call our builder. I explain the situation to him and he agrees to pay JD8 a visit before the concrete around the metal posts dries. Sure enough, I get home after work and the posts around the front of the house are laying on the street. Not exactly what I expected but at least they're out of the ground. Tragedy is averted for now.

    A few days later I realize he's not putting up chain-link but "chicken wire". Call # 2 to the builder. While talking on the phone, the builder starts referring to the neighbor in a less-than-amicable fashion – someone else on my side!

    By that afternoon, the fence is chain-link again. The top of the fence looks like a wave (he didn't want to spend the 6 bucks on a level), and the sides look like an S. Very crafty guy. Total estimated fence cost: $250.00 - but wait! -- He didn't set all the metal posts in concrete! Actual cost: $62.50. You get the idea here.

    Sometime after the fence

    Well, it's time to give Cujo the Rottweiler a home. The dog's actual name is Lucky. The dog quickly learns how to jump the fence. Once tied to a chain, he also learns that if he barks for a long time, people will come out to see him. Unfortunately, for about the first two weeks, he wants to be "seen" late at night. Apparently, JD8 doesn't play the "let's-see-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-the-dog" game. I'm the only game participant. After throwing a few rocks Cujo's way, he decides he'd rather sleep at night.

    Something else needs to be mentioned. Since JD8’s business is booming, he decides he doesn't have time to feed "Not-so-Lucky". Instead, he breaks open a 50 lb. bag of dog food in the middle of his storage closet and Cujo goes in there whenever he's hungry. Unfortunately for Cujo, the ants like dog food too.

    Sometime after the dog

    All work and no play is cramping JD8’s lifestyle! It's time to get in shape. We wake up early on a Saturday morning to the sounds of a bouncing basketball. He's put a basketball goal about 15 feet from our bedroom window.

    Mom moves in!

    Nothing wrong here. Mom seems like a very nice lady. Unfortunately, my wife wakes me up to bad news again. "Something weird is happening at JD8’s house. His dog is chasing some chickens around the back yard." Unfortunate indeed. Just as I peek out the bathroom window, I see JD8’s mom come out and throw some chicken feed in the middle of the yard. About nine chickens gather around, frantically pecking at the food but Cujo crashes in and spoils the moment. My morning is spoiled as well.

    Remember the old "covenant rules" of our neighborhood? Well, there's a sentence in there about livestock (fancy word for chickens and goats). We don’t live in the country – we live in the city. After a quick phone call to our city's "Special enforcement" folks, they promise to come out and give JD8 a warning. The chickens are gone within a couple days. Can you say chicken feast?

    Shortly after this, JD8 decides that maybe the city folks don't like chickens. Marcy thinks she hears Canadian geese behind our house. It's geese alright. JD8 has enclosed the wooden deck behind his house with some more chain-link fence and is now raising geese right on the deck! The geese disappear weeks after without the intervention of the fine folks at Special Enforcement. Maybe they flew away.

    Mom decides she can't be without her feathery friends and moves back home shortly after.

    Party number one

    It's Tuesday morning, about 2:00am. My wife and I wake up to what feels like a small tremor. It's JD8’s stereo, AKA the Bass Machine. All we hear is this bass rumble (it's making our bedroom windows rattle), and what sounds like a very poor male singer. Every song has the same monotone male singer. Well, amusement quickly turns to annoyance and anger. I decide to go ask them to turn it down.

    I knock on the door. Get ready for this image. The door opens, JD8 is holding a beer. There's a working disco ball hanging on their ceiling fan. There's a guy in the background standing in front of a big screen TV (holding a microphone). The words to George Michael's "Careless Whisper" slowly scroll to the music. You guessed it! It's a Karaoke Party!!! It takes all my strength to not laugh and remain "angry". I ask them to turn it down. The music stops for tonight.

    2nd home beautification project

    JD8 decides to put up rain gutters in front of his carport. Unfortunately he doesn't buy a piece long enough for the width of the carport. Instead, he buys two pieces. They're about ten feet long. He wedges the two pieces together by hand and proceeds to nail the now larger piece directly onto the carport. Once again, things don't go as planned for JD8 and he realizes the middle of the rain gutter is sagging -- right where the two pieces join. Having no time to consult his engineer friends, he comes up with the answer -- he ties a piece of a wire coat hanger around the middle of the rain gutter. For the finishing touch, he ties the coat hanger around a nail he's nailed onto the carport roof shingles. The nail is not nailed all the way into the shingles. About an inch of the nail remains above the shingles with the coat hanger wire neatly wrapped around it. Bob Vila would love this guy.

    The Rock

    This has to do with another home improvement project. There's no way to describe this project. It is quite simple. He wants to put a rock in his flower bed. The weird part is how the rock is placed there. When I describe this to my friends at work, I call it the "one legged table". I know it's hard to picture it. To see it, click here.

    Party number two

    This party follows the pattern of the first party except I didn't feel the urge to laugh. The scenario is the same. It's a weeknight, it's about 1:00AM and the party is going strong. I decide to again go speak to JD8 about the problem. I knock on the door and soon realize that the music is so loud that they can't hear the doorbell or my knocking. It's very cold outside and I'm VERY angry by now. The only thing I can do is to wait for the song to end so I can pound on the door hard enough for them to hear me. As predicted, the song ends, I bang on the door and in a few seconds, JD8 is standing there, holding a beer, smiling at me. I explain my concerns to JD8 and he apologizes several hundred times. I shake my head and return home.

    Same night, but it's now 3:00am. The music is back and with authority. It wakes us up again and this time I'm ready to kill somebody. Instead, I call the police. The funny thing is that when the police officer arrives, JD8 can't hear the officer knocking on the door. By now, my wife and I are glued to the window hoping to see some police brutality (yeah it's bad). The officer proceeds to walk around the house shining his flashlight into the windows hoping to get a glimpse of what's happening inside.

    As the officer is walking back towards the front of the house, JD8 opens the door and sees the police car. He panics and slams the door shut. The officer sees the light shining on the front lawn and runs to the front door. The officer starts pounding on the door, and shouting. After about thirty seconds, the door opens and the cop goes inside the house. We can hear the officer screaming for them to turn the music off. Sweet!

    I meet the officer by his car and he tells me to call him back if I hear anything so he can take everyone to jail. It was beautiful.

    Labor Day Party

    Fortunately for us, we were not home on Labor Day weekend. However, two of my other neighbors tell me that JD8 and friends had a knock-out-drag-out fist fight in the middle of the street. The time, of course, about 2:00AM. I can't tell you much about it except that the police showed up and got things under control. I presume somebody was on the Karaoke machine singing "Everybody was Kung Fu fighting" and things got out of hand after that.

    Late night project

    Just when you think JD8 will take a breather, things get going again. This time, it's about 11:00pm and he decides his carport is not complete. It's missing something – something other than a car. JD8 is putting together a pool table. It's positioned directly in the center of his carport - where else do you put a pool table, right? I have to point out that this happened long before the Drew Carry show so he didn’t get the idea from there. BTW – you can check out the rain gutters on that last picture.

    Back to the story. Of course, he is hammering, dropping things, and just making a whole lot of noise. I decide to just open the window and "ask" JD8 to keep it down. Apparently, "keeping it down" is a relative term. The project continues.

    To make a long story short, it's now 1:00am and the banging and hammering is still going on. I decide to call the police. Before the cops get here, one of JD8’s friends decides it's not too late in the evening to race his car's engine and burn some rubber all the way up the street. It's just wholesome fun!

    The policeman arrives and I explain the situation. I also tell him this time we ARE definitely going to court over this. He goes over to JD8’s house and after about 15 minutes, motions me to come over. It becomes evident that the cop has mentioned somebody is going to jail because the entire household is out of the house frantically apologizing, and trying to shake my hand.

    The cop explains that it is up to me to decide whether or not they get to spend a night downtown. I'm guessing that the JD8 crew is picturing some third-world-country type jail because they are quite frantic.

    I tell them that "this time" I won't let the police take them to jail. However, the "next time" we have a problem, "some damn body" is going to jail. The police officer agrees and gives me his business card. He asks me to specifically request his presence the next time I need the police out here. He tells them he doesn't want to be back. They are still nodding, waving, and shaking hands.

    Back Yard Accident?

    Well, after many months of inactivity, JD8 surpasses his previous antics. I come home from work to the sight of a smoking back yard. It turns out that it was winter time and the grass was dried-up(dormant) – JD8 threw a lit cigarette out his back door and you can imagine the rest. Here are two pictures of the end-result. Luckily for us, the fire stayed far from our property. Unfortunately, the grass didn’t burn long enough to take the wooden structure down. The privacy fence you see in the pictures separates his yard from the property behind our houses. That fence was about two weeks old. Here are the pictures: (Picture one) (Picture two).

    Hibachi Hell

    After a long hiatus, JD8 comes back strong. One early morning (around 5:15am), I wake up to the sound of voices. Marcy is wide awake - peeking out of our bedroom miniblinds. She tells me there are a few fire department trucks outside. Apparently, a neighbor (from the apartment buildings behind our subdivision) was on his way to work (he's a soldier) and noticed a fire behind JD8’s house. He jumped over the privacy fence, woke JD8 up, and called the fire department.

    I proceeded to go out there to get the scoop on what had happened. It turns out that JD8 had left a Hibachi grill on top of his wooden picnic table. Unfortunately, the picnic table was sitting on top of his wooden deck. To make a long story short, the table and a big part of the deck went up in flames.

    Of course, you want to see the pictures! Exhibit A Exhibit B Exhibit C

    Check out the chain link fence around the deck. That's where the geese used to live.

    Neighborhood thugs

    In case you don't remember, long ago, JD8 had placed a basketball goal right outside our bedroom window. Unfortunately for JD8, some neighborhood thugs put a couple bricks through the back-board. Unfortunately for me, the same bricks also took a chunk off the side of my house.

    JD8 decides to move the basketball goal to the curb to be picked up by our city's waste disposal specialists (garbage men). Well, from the look of JD8’s house, the garbage men aren't sure if it's really garbage so they never pick it up. The broken basketball goal sits by the curb for several months when JD8 decides to put it back on his driveway. He does not use it again. Here is a picture of the basketball goal. See the Christmas lights in the background? This picture was taken in the summer.

    Home-grown fish?

    I really don't know what to make of this one. JD8 has done stuff like this before. Again, like many of JD8’s antics, this one has to do with his never-ending love for home-improvement. The premise is simple, the flower bed by the mailbox is missing something.... hmmmmmmmm, a fish tank of course! No fish, just some green water.

    Latest Home Improvements

    Since there are a few of these, I'll just bunch them together. The first in this array of home beautification efforts has to do with the old mailbox (the one made with 2x4's). JD8 decides to use the old stolen bricks and build a brick mailbox. It's really nice. However, he uses his old white plastic mailbox and leaves the flag attached to it instead of attaching a flag to the bricks (it makes the mailbox flag inoperable – it stays up). Of course, worried about mail fraud or perhaps the anthrax scare, JD8 protects his mail with a Jesus Christ statue on top of the mailbox. Check out the handy work.

    Mailbox front Mailbox back Mailbox statue

    Notice the realty sign by the mailbox. That's right - this beautiful, well-taken-care-of home could be all yours. PLEASE buy it. I beg you. (No the house has not sold).

    Apparently the fish tank by the mailbox is not conducive to the preservation of carbon-based life forms. JD8 decides his next project will be a pond. Luckily for the neighborhood, he places the pond in his back yard. The actual construction of the pond is actually the best-looking project so far (it really is). However, JD8 had to add his personal touch to it and screwed everything up. JD8 decides to add a waterfall to the pond. He proceeds to remove a section of rain-gutters from the carport in order to get the waterfall effect. Here are the pictures. Pond 1 Pond 2

    The next project is a weird one. JD8 wanted to plant some spices. Again, he could choose to use normal plant pots to grow these. Instead, he buys several of those blue, child-size swimming pools (you know, the round ones that are about a foot deep) and fills them up with top soil. The look really nice - especially sitting next to the smelly pond. Pools 1 Pools 2

    This next project occurred long before the September 11 events. JD8 decides to put up an American flag in front of his house. I don’t mind that he’s putting up a flag. However, the JD8 School of Home Improvement (not yet an accredited learning institution) states that the flag pole needs to be taller than your house. Small aircraft, beware! Flag pole

    Flag pole update

    I have to admit that I'm impressed that JD8 has taken the time to replace the American flag with a new one since the old one was looking a little dirty. In this unprecedented set of pictures, we get to see JD8's handy work as it happens!! I actually took these pictures while he did the work. The quality of the pictures is really bad because I had to take the pictures through the window screen and with the camera flash disabled. Otherwise, my cover would have been blown. Note that he uses his Chevy Suburban to stand on (rather than using a ladder) and that the flag is upside down!! JD8 is awesome. Of course, he figures out that the flag is upside down and fixes it. The pictures tell the story. Again, sorry about the poor picture quality.
     

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