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Pwnd! White House says "fundamentals of the economy are strong"

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  1. basso

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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090315/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama_economy

    what happened to the epic "Catastrophe?" "fundamentally sound" is the new message of the day...

    Yossarian would be proud.

    [rquoter]White House says economy is sound despite 'mess'

    By PHILIP ELLIOTT, Associated Press Writer
    Sun Mar 15, 6:05 pm ET

    WASHINGTON – The economy is fundamentally sound despite the temporary "mess" it's in, the White House said Sunday in the kind of upbeat assessment that Barack Obama had mocked as a presidential candidate.
    Obama's Democratic allies pleaded for patience with an administration hitting the two-month mark this week, while Republicans said the White House's plans ignore small business and the immediate need to fix what ails the economy. After weeks projecting a dismal outlook on the economy, administration officials — led by the president himself in recent days — swung their rhetoric toward optimism in what became Wall Street's best stretch since November.

    During the fall campaign, Obama relentlessly criticized his Republican opponent, Sen. John McCain, for declaring, "The fundamentals of our economy are strong." Obama's team painted the veteran senator as out of touch and failing to grasp the challenges facing the country.

    But on Sunday, that optimistic message came from economic adviser Christina Romer. When asked during an appearance on NBC's "Meet the Press" if the fundamentals of the economy were sound, she replied: "Of course they are sound."

    "The fundamentals are sound in the sense that the American workers are sound, we have a good capital stock, we have good technology," she said. "We know that — that temporarily we're in a mess, right? We've seen huge job loss, we've seen very large falls in GDP. So certainly in the short run we're in a — in a bad situation."

    Just a week ago, White House Office of Management and Budget director Peter Orszag declared that "fundamentally, the economy is weak." Days later, Obama told reporters he was confident in the economy.

    "If we are keeping focused on all the fundamentally sound aspects of our economy, all the outstanding companies, workers, all the innovation and dynamism in this economy, then we're going to get through this," Obama said, striking a tone that his top aides mimicked.

    Despite the new enthusiasm at the White House and on Wall Street, there was little solid evidence to suggest an end was in sight to the severe recession that has already cost 4 million American jobs, driven down home values and sent foreclosures soaring. Meanwhile, Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao said he was concerned about the safety of the estimated $1 trillion his country has invested in U.S. government debt.

    Obama sought to downplay the worries.

    "There's a reason why even in the midst of this economic crisis you've seen actual increases in investment flows here into the United States," Obama said Saturday in the Oval Office. "I think it's a recognition that the stability not only of our economic system, but also our political system, is extraordinary."
    The seesaw message from the new administration drew sharp criticism from Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell, who said Obama's team was exploiting the economic situation for political gain.

    "They're taking advantage of a crisis in order to do things that had nothing to do with getting us into the crisis in the first place," McConnell said.

    Democratic lawmakers promoted a potential plan to help move so-called toxic assets off bank ledgers. Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., said discussions were under way, but would not be rushed.

    "If they wait a week or two more, no one ought to get all in a twitter about that. It's very important to do it right," he said.

    Also Sunday, the president's team largely rejected suggestions that officials were considering taxing employees' health benefits. As a candidate Obama had called such a proposal a "multitrillion-dollar tax hike."

    "I'm not leaving the door open," said Austan Goolsbee, a senior White House economist with a broad portfolio and a personal friendship with Obama, responding to a report in Sunday's New York Times. "The president has laid out a series of clear principles on the health plan that we will do whatever it takes to get affordable quality coverage to all Americans."

    Romer said she wouldn't take the idea off the table, but she added that Obama hasn't supported it. Larry Summers, the president's chief economic adviser, said it wasn't part of Obama's principles but left open the possibility of such a move from Congress, where Democrats control both chambers.
    Even so, Obama's political allies are not taking chances. Organizing for America, whose almost 14 million-person e-mail list is drawn from voters who supported Obama last November, plans to mobilize them this week to build grass-roots support for the budget on the Internet and on phone lines.

    "We didn't fight to shy away from the tough long-term decisions Washington has ducked for far too long," Obama political adviser David Plouffe wrote this weekend to members of the group, which is overseen by the Democratic National Committee.

    Republicans refused to accept Democrats' plans. McConnell said the GOP would work to amend the proposal in the Senate, but not put forward a wholesale plan.

    Rep. Eric Cantor, the GOP's No. 2 leader in the House, promised an alternative budget, in part to counter Democratic attacks that his party provided only "no" but not other ideas and in part to help small businesses, whom Cantor said Obama ignores.

    In contrast to Cantor's charge, Obama planned to provide billions of dollars in federal lending aid aimed at struggling small business owners.

    The broad package of measures to be announced Monday includes $730 million from the stimulus plan that will immediately reduce small-business lending fees and increase the government guarantee on some Small Business Administration loans to 90 percent, according to officials briefed on the plan who demanded anonymity because the announcement had not been made.
    McConnell appeared on ABC's "This Week." Summers appeared on ABC and on CBS's "Face the Nation." Romer and Cantor appeared on NBC. Goolsbee and Frank appeared on "Fox News Sunday."[/rquoter]

    is Obama or Geithner the bombadier? whichever, somebody, please, help him.
     
  2. bigtexxx

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    Obama is just lost. He doesn't know what to say. Here's one of his "inspiring pep talks" from a couple weeks ago. :rolleyes:

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  3. Ottomaton

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    BASSO, PWND!


    [rquoter]

    FOX News caught in an outright fabrication

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    The video embedded above shows Fox News’s Martha MacCallum introducing a segment about the Obama administration's current view of the economy: “After weeks of economic doom and gloom, the Obama administration is now singing a slightly different tune."

    <i><blockquote>She then played clips of Romer and other administration officials making seemingly positive comments about the current state of the economy. One of the clips was of Vice President Biden saying, “The fundamentals of the economy are strong! After the segment, MacCallum said, “All right, well the mantra for the weekend is clear, looking at what was said over the course of the shows on Sunday.”</blockquote></i>

    This is a complete fabrication; the clip of Biden's comments is not current. It was filmed six months ago during the presidential campaign. And he wasn't saying that he believed the fundamentals of the economy are strong. He was quoting John McCain - derisively.

    It's not even subtle in the film clip - you can see a "Change we can believe in" sign behind him. Embedded below is the original campaign segment from which FOX extracted their clip.

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    In long history of egg on the face, this may be the eggiest face that basso has ever had.
     
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    I can't believe you forgot this quote. We had a whole thread about McCain when he said "fundamentals of the economy are strong". McCain got beat over the head over and over again in the media. Obama and Biden took full advantage of McCain's mistake.
     
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    its so hard to open a basso thread... i can't stomach seeing basso embarrass himself anymore.
     
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    In fairness to basso, his article mentions one of Obama's economic advisers on Meet the Press, not Biden on Fox.
     
  12. Hydhypedplaya

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    I never seen somebody get owned so much. LOL
     
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    Basso is like the lonely child that does things wrong because his parent's yelling at him is the only attention he gets.
     
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    LOL YOU JUST GOT OWNED SONG FOR YOU!


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  15. basso

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    pwning the would-be pwner.
     
  16. bigtexxx

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    lol the liberal pile on technique has failed in this thread. Basso's point stands
     
  17. MrRoboto

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    The ignorant mullet conservative rump sniffing technique is clearly superior. If only you could read and think, instead of slowly digesting that which is fed to you, your posts would have potential value.
     
  18. durvasa

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    What does that Fox News clip have to do with what basso posted? His post didn't mention Biden. Fox News is a joke, and that's been well established.

    Anyways, Democrats ridiculed Republicans for trying to paint a rosy picture about the economy. First months of Obama's administration, right wing commentators criticize Obama for being all "gloom and doom" about the economy, and not doing enough to inspire confidence. Now, when some of Obama's advisors try to look at the bright side of things, the right wing commentators are switching arguments and saying he's a Obama is a being a hypocrite. There's really no way Obama officials can talk about the economy and not be criticized for it by the Right. It's just typical, political bs.
     
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    Quoted for truth.
     
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    Who were you before you registered this account?

    Man, Clutch must have really dropped the hammer a lot during the month of February because half of these February "rookies" seem to already know (and have grudges with) posters who have been around for years.
     

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