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Public schools would have to display Ten Commandments under bill passed by Texas Senate

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  1. Reeko

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    Public schools in Texas would have to prominently display the Ten Commandments in every classroom starting next school year under a bill the Texas Senate approved Thursday.

    Senate Bill 1515 by Sen. Phil King, R-Weatherford, now heads to the House for consideration.

    This is the latest attempt from Texas Republicans to inject religion into public schools. In 2021, state Sen. Bryan Hughes, a Mineola Republican, authored a bill that became law requiring schools to display donated “In God We Trust” signs.

    King said during a committee hearing earlier this month that the Ten Commandments are part of American heritage and it’s time to bring them back into the classroom. He said the U.S. Supreme Court cleared the way for his bill after it sided with Joe Kennedy, a high school football coach in Washington state who was fired for praying at football games. The court ruled that was praying as a private citizen, not as an employee of the district.

    “[The bill] will remind students all across Texas of the importance of the fundamental foundation of America,” King said during that hearing.

    The Senate also gave final passage to Senate Bill 1396, authored by Sen. Mayes Middleton, R-Galveston, which would allow public and charter schools to adopt a policy requiring every campus to set aside a time for students and employees to read the Bible or other religious texts and to pray.

    Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick said in a statement that both bills are wins for religious freedom in Texas.

    “I believe that you cannot change the culture of the country until you change the culture of mankind,” he said. “Bringing the Ten Commandments and prayer back to our public schools will enable our students to become better Texans.”

    Matt Krause, a former Texas state representative and attorney with the First Liberty Institute, the organization that represented the Washington coach, said the Kennedy case was a victory in religious freedom and this bill would be protected.

    “The Kennedy case for religious liberty was much like the Dobbs case was for the pro-life movement,” he said. “It was a fundamental shift.”

    In opposition to the bill, John Litzler, general counsel and director of public policy at the Texas Baptists Christian Life Commission, said at the committee hearing that the organization has concerns about taxpayer money being used to buy religious texts and that parents, not schools, should be having conversations about religion with their children.

    “I should have the right to introduce my daughter to the concepts of adultery and coveting one's spouse,” Litzler said. “It shouldn’t be one of the first things she learns to read in her kindergarten classroom.”

    https://www.texastribune.org/2023/04/20/texas-senate-passes-ten-commandments-bill/
     
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    Maybe they'll be bullet proof so the students can use the commandments to save them from the shooters.
     
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    Thou shall not kill, but if thou doths, firearms is best.

    AMEN
     
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    They are really getting brazen with their Christian Nationalism and taking a dump on the constitution.

    I hope some Muslims exercise their religious freedoms and we start seeing Korans in the public classroom.
     
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    Sadly, our current Supreme Court may have no problem with it, First Amendment be damned. No pun intended...
     
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    Jerkoff punk kid that I was, I would have absolutely had a prayer rug in the middle of class...next week: Amish...then Hasidic...then....
     
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    Please read these 10 commandments and pray when a shooter comes to your school. It might be your last chance for salvation
     
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    The wife and I want to try to have our first child soon. If this passes this might be the straw that breaks the camels back…. Time to change states.

    I love texas but god damn this is one backwards ass ****ing state.
     
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    Groomers.
     
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    Naw man we need you to stay and help turn this state blue! Wheels and his ilk won’t last forever. Millenials and Gen Z don’t go to church and support this crap.
     
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    I'm a native Texan who's ashamed of how foolish they make our state look to the rest of the country as the current majority in the Texas Legislature continue to stand in line and take turns crapping all over our revered United States Constitution. Our governor and his party seem to be in a pathetic contest with Florida to see which state's government can look the most ridiculous. Right now, they appear to be neck and neck.

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    What week is this

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    I know this won't be popular here.

    In my opinion, there are two different issues here.

    First, the government should be neutral and not dictate one religion over another (or over no religion at all).

    Secondly, I do think teaching children basic moral values is important, and there could be a lot worse things to teach than most of the content of the 10 commandments.

    Judeo-Christian values are a good moral backbone of Western societies.

    Certainly better than whatever the woke mind virus has infected y'all's brains with.
     
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    Rather they put out the Code of Hammurabi than Moses’ Ten Commandments. Or if you want something uniquely American, you could put up the golden plates.
     
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    The Church of Satan is licking its chops.

    But yeah, this is the real culture war.

    Spitting on the Constitution whenever it's convenient for them.
     
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    About 7 out of 10 of the 10 commandments violate basic civil rights. There is no moral values in not saying "the lord's name in vain". Restricting that is a suppression of civil rights.

    There are like 3 worthwhile commandments like "thou shalt not kill" and to attribute not wanting to murder someone with "Judeo-Christian value" is useless and disrespectful to human society that doesn't value "Judeo-Christian values".

    Though I love how you die on hills just because your ideological tribe did it so keep on defending this stupid ****.

    Next step is you elaborating on how Judeo-Christian values are "good" especially in the context of modern humanistic values.
     
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    Do you think Commandments:
    1. Thou shalt have no other God before me.
    2. Thou shalt not make graven images.
    3. Thou shalt not take the Lord’s name in vain.
    4. Thou shalt honor the Sabbath.

    are necessary for a moral society and individual?
     
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    Also the ten commandments goes to the heart of why morality in religion is so ****ed up.

    See with secular humanism, morality branches from a singular core concept of empathy.

    Therefore a list of "ten commandments" would be useless. For example "though shall not commit adultery" wouldn't ever need to be explicitly said because a reasonable empathetic person would be like "this might hurt the feelings of my partner and I don't want to hurt the feelings of my partner".

    It's as if religious people have to have their hands held to the direct conclusion rather than naturally coming to these conclusions based on a core concept of empathy.
     
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    The Code of Hammurabi might be good considered it was the first written law code and much of later legal theory, possibly the Ten Commandments themselves, were influenced by it.
     
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