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Pros and Cons of Vince Carter and Ron Artest

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rockets88MT, Feb 10, 2009.

  1. rockets88MT

    rockets88MT Member

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    i no it is early and all but if we were to get carter.. not saying we are but if we were to get him what would the pros and cons be and what would we lose in artest

    Vince pros:
    athleticism
    new revival of tmac??? maybe
    better fitting player
    better shooter
    dunking

    Cons:
    more shots
    another scorer not passer
    bigger contract
    another number 15 lol jokes

    Artest pros:

    strong
    3 point shooter
    intimidation
    defence!

    Cons:
    dumbass shots
    ball stopper
    chemistry issues (laughing at mac)
     
  2. 1individual

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    Artest defense? haha thats a joke.

    We need a scorer unlike what you say, we lack scorers on this team. The ball either goes to Yao or someone to chuck up a brick 3. T-Mac isn't himself, hes obsolete.
     
  3. 1JumpShot

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    pros of vince, he also attack the basket more
     
  4. rockets88MT

    rockets88MT Member

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    another i forgot was that vince is a little older
     
  5. TheGreat

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    Pros of Vince

    He will get T-Mac back on track... ;)
     
  6. cshen

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    lol @ this one

    chemistry issues (laughing at mac)

    what's wrong with that? :rolleyes:
     
  7. napalm06

    napalm06 Huge Flopping Fan

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    We thought this about Artest, we thought it about Adelman, we even thought it about Swift (dont ask me how the hell...)

    Nobody can change T-Mac but himself.
     
  8. Nelly

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    pros of keeping Artest: we will still have landry, scola, battier, or whoever else will be involved if we trade for Carter.
     
  9. jae713

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    Vince is also better one-on-one offensively. And with that athleticism I doubt he'll be any worse defensively than Artest has been lately.
     
  10. rocketsmetalspd

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    Why not get VC: 1. He has more years on his contract 2. He is injury prone 3. He is same as TMac 4. He will quit when he wants to.
     
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    Vince is a decent and willing passer. I don't know where you got that from that he wasn't a good passer. He's a way better passer than Ron.
     
  12. T.Mcgrady

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    1) Carter isn't injury prone.
    2) Carter has never quit on his ****ty Nets team.
    3) He's MUCH better than McGrady at this point.
    4) He is the least selfish superstar in the NBA - if you actually watched him it's blatant (this one isn't directed at you rockets).
    5) He's clutch. One of the best 4th quarter players in the league.
    6) He's one of the best playmakers at his position - extremely underrated in this regards.
    7) His defense since coming to NJ has been underrated.

    This guy is hated on for absolutely no reason. He's been the consummate professional since he left Toronto.
     
  13. rockets88MT

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    tmac missed a dunk and he's laughing at him... u don't think will start locker room issues?? :confused:
     
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    I will say we need a better PG if we're essentially going to swap McGrady for Vince. Vince is a magician with the ball and a good passer (5 APG) but he's still not the playmaker T-Mac is which will expose Rafer's deficiencies in that regard even more. If it's an Artest package for Vince I suppose that's less of a problem.
     
  15. matac3

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    I could see Carter improving the Rockets because he may feel like this is a team that can win it all
     
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    He quit on his ****ty Raptors team.

    with that being said.. i would still prefer vc over tmac
     
  17. dachuda86

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    I think both of the two would make good plays together... carter might balance Tracy out some, get him back into things... also the relationship between them may be good. Carter seems more mature and like he could get Tmac to calm down and wise up.
     
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    Got to give him credit for at least trying harder than his cousin.
     
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    <table border="1" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="2">
    <tr>
    <td></td><td>FG</td><td>3pt</td><td>FT</td><td>Reb</td><td>Ast</td><td>TO</td><td>Stl</td><td>Blk</td><td>Pts</td>
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    <td>Vince</td><td>5-10</td><td>0-2</td><td>2-2</td><td>3</td><td>8</td><td>3</td><td>3</td><td>1</td><td>12</td>
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    You didn't mention that Vince had a better game on both ends, especially defensively. Not to mention his team won by 44 points.
     
  20. saleem

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    You are correct.
     

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