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Projecting Astros '15 Roster - Advocating FA/Trade

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by travfrancis, Jun 13, 2014.

  1. Nick

    Nick Contributing Member

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    Its definitely a big reason why he walks at a high level... and as long as he makes them pay with enough frequency with all those pitches in the zone, he'll put up some great power numbers.

    I'd rather a player have Springer's "problem" than Williams' "problem".
     
  2. yaoishung7575

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    I agree 100 percent.
     
  3. yaoishung7575

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    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/green-lights-going-wrong-2014/

    Did you know that, this past season, George Springer was 20 runs better than average against fastballs, and eight runs worse than average against everything else? I bet you did not know that, specifically, but I bet you did know that, basically. Here’s a little peek into how you can run a 61% contact rate and still make yourself a reasonably productive hitter at the end of the day. Time your craziest swings for when missing with them will hurt the least. Springer missed this pitch by a foot, but then he immediately drew a walk anyway, so, who really cares, right? His being hurt allowed us to forget about how fascinating he is, but come 2015, Springer will fascinate again.
     
  4. No Worries

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    Maybe this is making too much of what Luhnow tweeted but ... The Astros will not be for looking for starting pitching or outfielders this offseason.
     
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  5. juicystream

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    Hard to argue that OF would be a priority. Springer/Marisnick/Fowler/Grossman has potential to be above average.

    Starting pitching is kind of the same way with Keuchel/McHugh/Feldman/Oberholtzer/Several Guys. I'd still like to add an ace, but that isn't easy to do.

    Astros were dead last in AL in bullpen ERA.
    Last in 3B OPS & 1B OPS

    Want a surprising stat? Astros led the AL in SS OPS.
     
  6. tellitlikeitis

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Maeda to Astros predicted. Will checkbook finally open? MT <a href="https://twitter.com/mlbtraderumors">@mlbtraderumors</a>: 2014-15 Top 50 Free Agents W*Predictions <a href="http://t.co/S90bwJydMP">http://t.co/S90bwJydMP</a></p>&mdash; Evan Drellich (@EvanDrellich) <a href="https://twitter.com/EvanDrellich/status/528626863355068417">November 1, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    12. Kenta Maeda – Astros. Maeda, 27 in April, is the next big thing out of Japan. The right-handed starting pitcher is expected to be posted by the Hiroshima Carp in November. Assuming multiple teams reach the $20MM posting fee maximum, it will be open bidding among those clubs afterward. As a team that fell short on Tanaka last year, the Astros could bring Maeda in to front their rotation for less than the Big Three starters will cost. Most of the teams named for Ervin Santana could be possibilities here.

    Rafael Soriano and Pat Neshek are also predicted to be Astros.

    37. Rafael Soriano – Astros. Soriano has cashed in on saves with multiple previous contracts. With the Nationals this year, he saved 32 games but lost his closer job in early September. He’s still a useful member of a bullpen, capable of ERAs in the low 3.00s despite extreme flyball tendencies.

    45. Pat Neshek – Astros. Neshek, a 34-year-old sidearmer, signed a minor league deal with the Cardinals in February and went on to make the All-Star team. He posted a stellar 1.87 ERA in 67 1/3 innings overall, appears in line for a two-year deal and could fit in the bullpen of contending clubs and non-contenders alike.
     
  7. bigtexxx

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    After watching what KC's bullpen did this year, expect quality bullpen arm's market rates to increase
     
  8. jdh008

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    Agreed. Guys like David Robertson, Sergio Romo, and to a lesser degree, the two mentioned in the MLBTR piece, are going to get paid.

    And that's kind of funny, particularly if the Royals are used as the model. Their bullpen core was not only made up of home-grown players, but two-thirds of it was made up of a failed starter (Wade Davis) and a guy who was never even among the Royals top-30 prospects at any point (Greg Holland).

    You're just as likely to hit on an elite bullpen by throwing your spare parts together as you are by spending money in free agency.
     
  9. juicystream

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    Davis wasn't really a failed starter, he was just a BOTR guy (though he got worse each year), but his stuff played way up when used in the bullpen.

    Luke Hochevar was a failed starter for them that turned into a dominant relief guy for them last season.
     
  10. boozle222

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    Not a huge pick up, but it is a decent one:

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Dbacks have lost reliever Will Harris, who was claimed off waivers by the Astros.</p>&mdash; Nick Piecoro (@nickpiecoro) <a href="https://twitter.com/nickpiecoro/status/529359517063348225">November 3, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    His stats

    He has played in two hitters parks (Coors and Arizona), and had an FIP of 3.20 last year with a decent strike out to walk ratio. He is an LSU product and turned 30 in August.
     
  11. ApolloRLB

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    Free Agents Signings (salary per MLB Trade Rumors projections)

    Chase Headley - 4yr $48M
    Andrew Miller - 4yr $32M
    Jose Veras - 1 yr $3M (resign)
    = $20M additional payroll per Crane quote :)

    I personally think Headley will sign for more than that and don't think the Orioles will give Miller a qualifying offer. I'm assuming that the Wandy salary that the Astros were paying is sufficient to cover any growth in arbitration salaries for Castro/Fowler/etc.

    Lineup
    C: Castro
    1B: Singleton
    2B: Altuve
    3B: Headley
    SS: Gonzalez
    LF: Fowler
    CF: Marisnick
    RF: Springer
    DH: Carter

    Bench: Corporan, Grossman, Petit, Presley

    SP1: Keuchel
    SP2: McHugh
    SP3: Feldman
    SP4: Oberholtzer
    SP5: Tropeano

    Bullpen: Miller (CL), Qualls, Sipp, Veras, Fields, Will Harris, Deduno

    AAAA: Folty, Villar, Downs, Chapman, Buchanon, Stassi, Hoes, Krauss, Cisnero, Zeid
    DL: Peacock

    Once Headley is signed, trade Dominguez for a couple A level lottery tickets to a team desperate for a 3B.
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Astros selected catcher Carlos Perez to 40-man roster, activated Josh Zeid from the 60-day DL &amp; outrighted right-handed pitcher Jose Cisnero</p>&mdash; Evan Drellich (@EvanDrellich) <a href="https://twitter.com/EvanDrellich/status/529395336193007616">November 3, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    Probably means they are gonna move on from Corporan, which I kind of expected. Gonna roll with Castro/Stassi with Perez as the AAA reserve.

    Also probably means Rene Garcia is gonna be exposed, but he's not a big risk, nor would he be a big loss if he got scooped. These guys pretty much scream backup catcher.
     
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    Gonna miss Corporan if true, he would be a great backup/clubhouse guy for a contender.
     
  15. boozle222

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    Who's going to take our players helmets or after homeruns?
     
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    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2014/11/04/free-agent-preview-starting-pitchers/18490703/

     
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    Should we trade for yet another Rockies OF this offseason?

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-b...tulowitzki-and-carlos-gonzalez-024426759.html

     
  19. King1

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    No thanks on Cargo
     
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