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Prime teams for cannibalizing at the deadline or before

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by jopatmc, Jul 7, 2010.

  1. jopatmc

    jopatmc Member

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    1. New Orleans - Shinn is trying to sell. He needs to dump salary. If Paul starts griping by Christmas and they are tanking, then a possible big time salary dump could net Chris Paul.

    2. Phoenix - losing money, just lost Amare. Nash has no one of substance to play with. He'll be wasting away in the desert. If PHX cannot move Barbosa for an expiring and a pick, and they are struggling to compete in the West, then they might take the wash out of expirings plus young talent and/or picks for Nash and Barbosa.

    3. Golden State - going nowhere and getting there fast. Not a playoff contender. Not even close. Two albatross dead weight contracts in Ellis and Biedrins. They'd take a salary dump for either guy. What if we could squeeze their 2011 first rounder out of them as well? Or what if we could get Randolph and their first rounder to do a salary dump?

    4. Cleveland Cavaliers - IF.........Lebron leaves, they are prime picking if you want Varejao or Jamison.

    5. Indiana - losing money like crazy. Not anywhere close to contending in the East. Granger could be on the table for a young PF and a draft pick and expirings.

    6. Philly - Non contending team that needs to get real young and real deep and develop a roster. Iguodala and Brand are sitting there. Would Philly give up their 2011 first rounder for a salary dump of Iggy and Brand?

    7. Minnesota - wants to dump Big Al. But apparently not too many takers....yet. Perhaps Hill plus expirings plus one future pick for Big Al and the rights to Rubio.

    8. Memphis - one knucklehead on a max contract wasn't enough for this sorry excuse of an NBA franchise so they decided to max out Rudy Gay so they'd have not one but TWO overpaid knuckleheads playing for them. They have nothing we would be interested in besides possibly Marc Gasol or Thabeet. But as stupid as they appear to be, we may be able to get one of those guys and a future first rounder from them for Jared Jeffries. Never know with these guys.

    9. Utah Jazz - If they can't pull it together without Boozer, they may look to reload with young talent. Okur may be available for expirings. Kirilenko signed to an extension? And if it really gets ugly, DWill? (Jus sayin')

    10. Denver - It appears to me Melo is headed for the Big Apple as soon as his contract is up. If that happens, they are going to implode before this season is finished. But all the same, not much here to really look at. Billups is great, but he's on the downside. Nene - way overpaid. Birdman would be nice for some junk.


    Detroit, Clippers, etc., don't see anything worth looking at really and no team that is going to be in a position to be pillaged.
     
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  2. valorita

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    we should have an ongoing poll on which team is the most desperate throughout the season.
     
  3. thetatomatis

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    I dont think we shouldnt announce our plans over the internet anymore. I have a feeling teams scan our posts for our teams plans. Lets just let Morey handle everything and give him suggestions and do the trade scenarios thingy. Giving the whole reason and layout only give the other teams people who do have practices of reading other teams fan posts ideas of how to thwart them and what to do to move on our players before we get them.

    I happen to know other teams read other cities sports forums and newspapers to get a jump on free agents and trades. As a tool.
     
  4. DieHard Rocket

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    Hahaha. Wow.

    Nothing of substance that is posted here is anything that isn't available or soon to be available to the mass media. Internet message boards are not where GM's go to tap into other teams thoughts.

    Even when we are right about something, it's one of a thousand ideas that gets tossed around (ie the Kevin Martin deal - trading for Martin had been mentioned as one of many thoughts ... but even then, nobody had an idea of giving up Landry for him).
     
  5. weslinder

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    Dumb question, but why would Philly or Golden State give up picks if they're rebuilding?
     
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    Because NOBODY wants Brand's contract.


    And I don't see too many takers for Biedrins' contract. Possibly Ellis could be moved for something besides expirings. But I don't see a big market for him either. And I believe Golden State is trying to sell out to Larry Ellison.
     
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  7. NJRocket

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    u may wanna put us on that list if Yao goes down again
     
  8. steddinotayto

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    I'm on board the Chris Paul Bandwagon.
     
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    Ahaaaa! Gotcha on that one. He's expiring. We can trade his contract.
     
  10. TMacAttack

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    Yeah we need to encrypt these message boards and restrict access to only Houston IP address. And if those nosy GMs keep ruining our plans we can always resort to smoke signals or something.

    But seriously, after some thought, I wouldn't be surprised if the Knicks might "scan" forums for ideas. They must not look too deeply though...
     
  11. Prince

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    Rockets are still hot and so is Ana Megan.

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  12. ArtV

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    Good thread discussion.

    1. New Orleans - I like Paul. I mean who doesn't. I have a feeling if/when Chris goes on the market, there will be 25+ other suiters. eg. NY can give them an expiring Curry + someone not named Amar'e or Lebron (assuming he's going there). There is also his injury which has me somewhat concerned on his longivity.

    2. Phoenix - All their contracts are expiring except for Nash. That leaves them in a very flexible position. I think they would be open to getting a jump on next year and trading some of their expirings for some of our young players but would we want to give up one of our youngins for one of their expirings? I'm not sure I would.

    3. Golden State - May have one more fleecing in them but we need to be careful and not take out their trash for free.

    4. Cleveland Cavaliers - 100% agree. There may be a big fire sale starting tonight. This team is poised for what we have in our treasure chest.

    5. Indiana - I really don't see them giving up Granger as he is the only good guy they have and at a very reasonable amount. They currently have $42+ million in expirings already. Just letting their expirings expire will help them out of their hole.

    6. Philly - "Would Philly give up their 2011 first rounder for a salary dump of Iggy and Brand?" They probably would but I don't know that Morey wants those contracts for so little. That's almost $30 million per year - and climbing - for a very long time. I don't think he'd want either for that price much less both. And for us to scrape up $30 million of our own would either cause us to give up Scola, Martin or Yao - or completely gut the team. Not worth it.

    7. Minnesota - I think they are letting the offers simmer and see if there are any new offers after Thursday from some FA losers - like us. I mean that would be the smart thing to do. But this is the Timberwolves were talking about. This is one of the worst run teams in the league so you never know what to expect - except for the ridiculous. I really don't think they won't trade Rubio unless something silly comes along - which I don't think it will. He could very well retire over there. But personally I'd love to have Big Al. He's an expensive back up but I think you could also look at it like Yao is a more expensive back up if his minutes are limited. There may not be a better big available - and he's young.

    8. Memphis - Minnesota's step-brother and 1st cousin. Wow - I feel for the fans. There's no telling which way they go but I think you probably can get someone. Problem is that the only one I'd take would be Gasol and he's too cheap and good for them to let go. I'm not sure their gene pool is so tainted that they'd do that. But there was that other dude they traded to LAL.

    9. Utah Jazz - I think they try and play with who they have. They usually don't make good trade partners.

    10. Denver - I agree that the are ready for an implode but they may wait until Anthony gives them the formal goodbye before blowing it up. I agree with your assessment on their players.
     
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  13. Garner

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    I say find a way to go snag Marc Gasol.
     
  14. TISNF

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    I don't agree with Philly; I actually think they'll sneak into the playoffs. My vote for the team that will implode: Detroit.

    New Orleans should be something to watch; they won't contend and (assuming LeBron signs with Cleveland), that's where I see Paul going.
     
  15. steddinotayto

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    I asked this in another thread but I'll pose the same question to you: What can the Cavaliers offer the Hornets for Paul?
     
  16. TISNF

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    If their main concern is cost cutting...they won't need much. What are the expirings like for Cleveland? A few picks, some cash...I don't think the Hornets are really going to want much incoming.
     
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    They are not going to want much for a Top 3 point guard? Cost cutting or not (signs point to not considering there's new ownership in place), you don't trade a Top 3 point guard who hasn't even entered his prime years for expirings, a few picks, and some cash.
     
  18. GovernorAggie

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    You do if you're George Shinn.
     
  19. TISNF

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    Bingo. Again, if New Orleans doesn't want to take back salary, a couple of expirings + future draft picks + cash should be enough (Mo Williams will obviously be a part of such a deal).

    The only guy who NO would "want" is what every team wants: Hickson. I firmly believe the Cavs would relent to trading Hickson if it nets them Paul.
     
  20. smoothie

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    great idea for a thread.

    i would get rid of a few teams on that list though. i highly doubt that the warriors, sixers, grizzlies, nuggets, or jazz will be thinking firesale this year.

    the hornets, suns, cavs, pacers, and wolves are all prime targets though.
     

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