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Presidential Debate III: The Finale

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Lil Pun, Oct 13, 2008.

  1. Lil Pun

    Lil Pun Member

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    Looks like we might see a little something different from McCain in the final presidential debate. Below is an article that says he is preparing for a comeback speech that will lead into the debate. The article also notes that unless McCain makes a difference tomorrow night, his chances of doing so from here on out diminish.

    McCain Planning Comeback Speech

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081013/pl_politico/14513

    Three weeks before Election Day, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) on Monday is unveiling what his aides call a more forceful new stump speech in which he portrays himself as a scrappy fighter on the comeback trail against an opponent who’s already “measuring the drapes” in the Oval Office.


    “The national media has written us off.,” McCain says in excerpts released by the campaign. “Senator Obama is measuring the drapes, and planning with Speaker Pelosi and Senator Reid to raise taxes, increase spending, take away your right to vote by secret ballot in labor elections, and concede defeat in Iraq. But they forgot to let you decide. My friends, we’ve got them just where we want them.”

    Allies are calling this “hitting the ‘reset’ button” on the campaign, with McCain reemerging after a long Sunday strategy session with a feisty tack that uses candor and humor, at a time when his rallies have become known for raucous rage and clumsy attacks.

    But it’s more like hitting the panic button. McCain is appearing Monday in Virginia and North Carolina – two states that are usually safe for Republicans in presidential races, and that he should have put away long ago. But Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) is pouring visits and staff into the former Confederacy, and he has caught McCain in many Southern polls.

    Nationally, the Real Clear Politics average has Obama up 7.3 points. A Washington Post-ABC News Poll out Monday morning gives Obama a yawning 10-point lead, while a Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby poll shows Obama up just four points.

    "Let me give you the state of the race today,” McCain says in his new speech. “We have 22 days to go. We’re six points down. …

    “What America needs in this hour is a fighter; someone who puts all his cards on the table and trusts the judgment of the American people. I come from a long line of McCains who believed that to love America is to fight for her. I have fought for you most of my life. There are other ways to love this country, but I’ve never been the kind to do it from the sidelines.”

    The remarks reflect the graceful cadences of Mark Salter, McCain’s longtime aide and co-author, and suggest that the senator plans to fight without personally going viciously negative in the final days. He can leave that to the television advertisements.

    The reference to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) is part of a new Republican effort to warn voters of the consequences of having one party dominate all of Washington, as Democrats would if Obama won in a landslide that helped his party rack up wider congressional margins.

    The McCain campaign is beset from all sides. William Kristol, the influential conservative commentator, has a column in today’s New York Times with the headline “Fire the Campaign” and the lead: “It’s time for John McCain to fire his campaign. He has nothing to lose. His campaign is t.otally overmatched by Obama’s.”

    Over the weekend, McCain advisers said he planned to announce new economic policies, including tax cuts designed to encourage investors to return to the markets. But after a tense strategy meeting on Sunday, McCain had not signed off on any new announcements, to the consternation of some key supporters who said he needs to do more to show command on the economy, the top issue on voters’ minds.

    The third and final presidential debate is Wednesday at Hofstra University, the largest private school on Long Island, N.Y. After that high-stakes encounter moderated by Bob Schieffer of CBS News, McCain’s chances of changing the dynamics diminish.
     
  2. mc mark

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    Think Mccain will use the word "uppity"?
     
  3. Mulder

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    How many times will he say anything to try and get elected? This is a sad turn of events for a man I used to respect.

    Barring a disaster of epic proportions by the Obama campaign, this is over.

    From Electoral Vote.com

    Obama Leads on Intrade 353 to 185

    This morning's state-by-state Intrade.com map shows Obama with 353 electoral votes to McCain's 185. This is not far off from our score of 346 to 181 with Missouri tied. Bettors think Obama will sweep all the Kerry states plus Virginia, North Carolina, Florida, Iowa, Colorado, New Mexico, and Nevada. The only swing state colored red is Missouri. Here is the Intrade map.

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    Obama Continues to Lead in the National Polls

    Here is today's batch of national polls. Obama has an average lead nationally of 8%.
    - Diageo tracking (Obama +8)
    - Gallup Tracking (Obama +7)
    - Rasmussen tracking (Obama +6)
    - Research 2000 tracking (Obama +13)
    - Washington Post/ABC (Obama +10)
    - Zogby (Obama +4)
     
  4. rhadamanthus

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    that uppity one

    ;)
     
  5. Oski2005

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    2 other republican politicians already did, it might be too played out.
     
  6. durvasa

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    When he's saying that Obama is already "measuring the drapes", what's he referring to?

    Has Obama suggested anywhere that the election is already won?
     
  7. RocketMan Tex

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    I'm still waiting for McCain to call Obama "Charlie" and to try to call in a fire mission on his imaginary radio.
     
  8. rimrocker

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    McCain brought out the old line today... "Obama's already measuring the drapes in the White House." I think that's the political equivalent of throwing in the towel.
     
  9. leroy

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    Nope. Just plain desperation trying to play the underdog role. McCain must have a clear win on Wednesday to resume any hope. I just don't think he's capable of that.
     
  10. glynch

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    McCain will make one more complete reversal. He will play that he is a moderate bi-partisan type of guy. He will act more like a nice guy towards Obama. He will call for "both sides" to refrain from unfair attacks against each other. lol

    There will probably be some more direct references to being a POW and he might even dare to call himself a "maverick", though Palin might have ruined that word by saying 20 times in one debate.

    The debate is very unlikely to change much.
     
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    GAME CHANGA PATCH v.3.6.1 AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD FROM JOHNMCCAIN.COM*

    *requires restart, may cause system instability and/or corruption of files.
     
  12. krnxsnoopy

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    I agree, I'd actually pay money to see McCain call himself the "maverick" as the climax of this month-long train wreck. Uncontrollable laughter would follow.
     
  13. rimrocker

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    So, McCain touts a major economic speech over the weekend, but when Monday arrives, we get a "new" stump speech made out of old chestnuts from previous campaigns and a bit of the acceptance speech.

    Meanwhile, Obama delivers a major economic speech and is the first (as far as I can tell) national politician to directly tell America that we as individuals can't continue to live on credit.

    Leadership is on display today.
     
  14. Nice Rollin

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    it's funny how the red states are all places i would NEVER want to live. (except texas obviously)......think about the people who live in those states....
     
  15. thacabbage

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    i'm curious to see if he will continue his peculiar insistence upon devolving every segment regarding the economic crisis into an awkward diatribe against earmark spending.

    i wonder what vegas odds are on the compulsary "i will make them famous - you will know their name" count.
     
  16. justtxyank

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    What is this supposed to mean????
     
  17. FFz

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    drinking game time!! Shot for every time mccain says "My friends"
     
  18. RocketMan Tex

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    I heard that at a rally last week, he said "My Fellow Prisoners" when he meant to say "My Fellow Americans".....
     
  19. MystikArkitect

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    Haha my friends and I came up with the same game. Wish we would've been prepared for the V.P. debate and done it every time Palin said "maverick" or "track record".
     
  20. Mulder

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