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Predictions on when, not if, when Rudy T get fired.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DearRock, Mar 5, 2003.

  1. DearRock

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    I love the man but the runaway freight train is too much for him to handle. To the best of my knowledge Rudy T has never been through something like this, where all fingers are pointing at him. Predicting his firing is not easy as it is hard to quantify how much the organization will resist making a change because of his history with the organization. However if this thing continues, which I am tending to expect, Mr. Alexander will have to say enough is enough or probably Rudy T would do the classy thing and step aside.
     
  2. DearRock

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    End of the season.
     
  3. MoonDogg

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    Ummm......next week?
     
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    But you guys have to realize that firing RT will not solve Rox problem.
     
  5. montgo

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    Nope...most rocket insiders and press has as it that he has one more year. With the addition of Yao Ming, he will be given one more year to make the playoffs and tutor the Mingster......
     
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    End of the season.

    Rudy, Pat Riley, Lenny Wilkins & George Karl should all get fired. Some of the worst performances in the league. All guys who cannot adjust to the new game, and trot out one tired excuse after another for piss-poor players quit on them teams. I hope Les has the guts to do it. I can't imagine stomaching this death spiral, and then asking us to stomach more.
     
  7. GATER

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    Current record is 30-30. Going 8-14 (a very real possibility) for the remaining 22 games means 38-44. If he doesn't step down at the end of the season, he should.
     
  8. Raven

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    If the Rockets get off to a slow start next season, he'll be gone before the all star game.

    Raven
     
  9. DearRock

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    I hear you Mongo on giving him another year; but we can put that another way. Should Rudy be entrusted with the task of developing such a resource? I am not sure if Rudy's approach and schemes are in the best interest of bringing Ming along. I certainly would not blindly let him continue based on what he has done so far this season and what he has done so far with SF and EG. If with everything that is at stake, right now, Rudy is unable to turn things around this year, I cannot see how he should be blindly allowed to continue. At this point he appears to be bankrupt with not even the slightest idea of where to turn to.
     
  10. sailor

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    He should have been fired last week.
     
  11. ArtV

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    "Couldn't put the ball in the hole". The video team concludes - they must score more points than the other team to win.
     
  12. The Real Shady

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    If things stay the same by next year it will either be mid-season or at the end of it. Nothing will happen this year no matter what. They will try and move some players before they move Rudy.
     
  13. stevel

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    First, if you think they are going to fire a guy that has been with the organization for as long as he has, you're crazy. Second, this is not his fault, and the game has not all of a sudden past him by. He does have odd sub patterns, but other than that he is a fine coach.

    The problem with the Rockets lies with the players. This team was built to play against a man 2 man D. The new D rules have helped some teams and hurt others. We are hurt because we do not have consistent shooters. No one on our team can knock down an open 15 footer with regularity, let alone 3 pointers.

    I look for personel moves in the offseason. We actually have several very tradeable players - EG, MT, KC, GR, and CM. Look for some changes in that department, and look for a dramatic improvement next season.

    I can understand everyones frustration though as I currently hate watching the games. We could have the stupidest team in the league, and this must be addressed through player changes not coaching changes. If they make certain moves to bring in consistent shooting and they still suck then it would be time to move Rudy into the front office. I still would love to see them bring in an ass-kicker to get some of their heads out of their asses, in fact I'll volunteer for that in a heart beat. :mad:
     
  14. montgo

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    he will be given at least through at least December of next year to get this team moving in the right direction....I do not agree with it, but that is the talk by media insiders.....

    I think a change has to be made both in personnel (additions or subtractions) and coaching. I think the untouchables are Ming, Ming and Ming. Though I like Francis' game, I am not opposed to moving him if required. Ming is a rare find and is proving that he will be a force in this league.

    It could be circumstances, but this is big business and my personal 30k investment over the past 5 years is not paying dividends and returns.....

    I want Rudy part of the organization because of his contributions, but his on-court prescence is not getting it done and to be fair, neither are some players....
     
  15. munco

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    They might not fire him, but he may step down. I still think it's unlikely until the end of next season, but if the right coach is available I wouldn't be rule it out either.

    I never feel the coach is the reason for losing, but he's often the one held accountable when the talent is there and the wins aren't. With that said, I've never regarded Rudy as a great coach and definitely not a great X's and O's guy. With a team full of young guys I really believe you have to motivate and be great with the X's and O's. I think Rudy can still motivate, but I don't think he's great with the X's and O's.

     
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    Exactly, and for too many reasons to list. Rudy's going to be on the bench when the new arena opens, but if things continue as they are it's going to be one hot-seat. Any other organization at this point would be thinking seriously about a coaching change in the off-season, but it's not going to happen here.
     
  17. Deuce

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    I don't see Rudy getting fired during this season or during the off season. I see him at least finishing next season.

    I will say this. This will be an absolutely HUGE offseason for the Rockets

    1) Player movement (Using Rice's expiring contract, getting consistant shooters / smart BB players)
    2) Player development (i.e. Griffin and Nachbar)

    There needs to be marked improvement on this team next year and absolutely (baring any 'significant' injuries) the team next year HAS to make the playoffs. No excuses. If they don't, then Rudy gets canned.

    Chris
     
  18. GATER

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    First, how is "this team was built to play against a man 2 man D" much of an argument? Unless you've got proof of a conspiracy leak of the forthcoming zone, ALL 29 teams were built to play against man to man.

    Second, within the concept of whatever offense the Rockets use I don't see very many uncontested 15' shots. Everything the Rockets do offensivley is difficult...seldom does one observe an easy shot. If they can't effectively run a PnR to free someone up for an easy shot, this is coaching. If you still try to ISO or 1on1 vs a zone, this too is coaching.
     
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    Rudy needs to stop being a players coach and make the tough decisions. This will not only better the Rockets this season but help him hold on to his job. Tough Changes need to made for tonights game. I would like him to move Steve to the two, Tito at the one, Posey at the three, Yao at the five, and Taylor at the four. Tough times call for changes to made and for Rudy to show some ba@#$.:mad:
     
  20. New Jack

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    At 1st I was thinking it was the players at fault with the team struggling and that we had too many selfish players. But I'm starting to come around in thinking Rudy is mostly responsible. I don't think Steve and Cat are selfish because they play ISO-ball a lot. The whole friggen team plays ISO-ball. Taylor, Yao, Eddie, and Rice included.

    I caught a Sixers game the other night and Kenny Thomas had 15 points to help lead the Sixers to a win. Not a single one of them came from an ISO. He was getting his points in the flow of the offense. He was playing like the team player we always wanted him to be. I'm starting to think now that it wasn't KT that made KT look like a selfish player. It was Rudy T that made KT look like a selfish player.

    Unless Rudy changes his philosphy on offense, this team is never going to play like a cohesive unit.
     

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